I cashed in over a hundred thousand rand at African Palce casino of my own money over the last month, The last time I played It won some of my money back. R 132 500 - 00, I made a withdrawal on 11 October 2010 and they are not paying out my money, There is no way to get hold of them, You can phone all the telephone lines that are available and e mail all the e mail adresses, they just ignore you flat. How can they still operate and get away with this. How do you take someone on if there is no place to find them, it like dealing with a machine and they hiding behind this talking all the poeple's money, That is theft and they are still operating as if it is legal to steel everybody's money

Dennis Scott
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Online gambling was on South African television screens Thursday evening, and not in a good way.

The consumer investigation division of the documentary program Carte Blanche carried out some impressive sleuthing into the companies and men behind African Palace online casino, focusing on an only partially paid multi million rand winner whose trials and tribulations with the online casino have been previously documented by InfoPowa.

South African player Marie Van Wyk appeared on the program, detailing her protracted and ongoing instalment payment hassles with Durban-based people behind the scenes at African Palace.com, which was reported as being licensed in the Netherlands Antilles, with gambling servers in the United Kingdom.

Van Wyk detailed her Rands 8.5 million win at African Palace, but said alarm bells started ringing when the online casino asked her to open a foreign bank account in Cyprus and not to disclose to her South African bank that the incoming money was the proceeds of gambling.

She had not realised that online gambling in the country was illegal, she said.

The big winner described how the first two instalments of her huge and much publicised win arrived on time, but the third and fourth were late and required active chasing, and the fifth - over a million rands - was queried by the South African Reserve Bank.

Eventually, one Denver Chetty, alleged to be an executive at the casino, told her: 'Listen, I don't like your attitude. You're not going to get a cent of your money anymore. And you can go to the papers, and you can go to your lawyers because we're an overseas company and they can't do anything to us.''

It seems that Ms. Van Wyk did exactly that.

The evasive manner in which Carte Blanche journalist Devi Sankaree Govender was treated by the casino when she tried to get Chetty's side of the story did little for the credibility or image of African Palace management.

Exacerbating the issue was a 3 hour confrontation between the journalist visiting a Durban office building and aggressive and bullying security guards who seized, and damaged, an expensive camera. Police were called and a security guard arrested and removed on charges of assault, theft and malicious damage to property.

Govender also interviewed Thebi Moja - acting CEO: National Gambling Board, who was adamant that online gambling remained illegal in South Africa despite the high profile advertisements for African Palace and other Internet gambling firms that regularly flight on television in the country.

Moja told Carte Blanche that no South African is allowed to gamble online and no company may offer these facilities to South Africans. She emphasised that no companies should entice by advertising that they can offer this type of activity to the South African market.

She could not satisfactorily explain and seemed evasive on why no action had been taken against companies advertising online gambling in the country for years, and - rather strangely - she did not discuss the extensive research into online gambling regulation, and the much delayed legislative moves in that direction by the SA government.

Wayne Lurie, a local lawyer specialising in Internet gambling told Carte Blanche: "We now sit in 2009 going into 2010 and still don't have that legislation.

"What we do have is a purported prohibition on making available or engaging in interactive gambling, which I believe is insufficient in respect of the penalty that is carries. Bearing in mind an offence in terms of the act or an alleged offence in terms of the act would lead to 10 years in prison or a R10-million fine."

He concluded that at the moment online gambling in South Africa is a very grey area. Lurie went on to discuss the legal technicalities of where gambling takes place and the location of servers, using the long-running Piggs Peak vs. Gauteng Gambling Board legal dispute still rumbling through the High Court as an example.

First Grand Gaming, said to be the company behind African Palace declined to give an interview but answered written questions through a Cape Town-based lawyer.

He claimed that First Grand is registered in the Netherlands Antilles, and holds the online casino's interactive gambling license; that the casino's website and its gaming servers - upon which the gambling takes place - are also situated on the Caribbean island. And that the web servers from which punters download the interactive games are hosted in the United Kingdom.

First Grand Gaming denied it has any South African shareholding or that it has offices in South Africa.

However, Carte Blanche traced financial transactions to a bank in Durban, where a company titled TBFD Media - whose only director is Denver Chetty - had an account. First Grand's lawyer said that this company is a mere marketing firm, but when phoned the African Palace Casino title was used.

This was confirmed by a security guard when the investigating team visited the building in Durban occupied by TBFD, and where the confrontation between Carte Blanche and the security official took place.

Subsequent attempts to speak to Chetty were met with an answering service, but were immediately responded to by the Cape Town lawyer for First Grand, who insisted that all contact would be through himself.

The Carte Blanche program ended with the question, "How do the millions of rands that punters deposit into TBFD Media's bank account in Durban bypass foreign exchange control regulations if the business is based outside South Africa?

"And why did Marie van Wyk's winnings have to be paid from a Cypriot bank account instead of the local Durban-based one if indeed online gambling through African Palace Casino is legal?"