Air France

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May 16, 2008
Bumpy ride
My wife and I traveled on Air France flight 033 on Wednesday, April 9, 2008, from Houston, TX, to Paris, France. In all of my years of flying (40+), this was the rudeness, inconsiderate flight crew I have ever encountered. My wife is a diabetic, and special meals were requested prior to the flight. The flight period through the evening meal was all right; but after that, things degraded. We encountered turbulent, and the seat belt sign was turned on. After twenty minutes, my wife needed to go to the lavatory due to medicine she is taking. She was getting out of her seat when an attendant approached and in a rude and threatening manner, demanded that she sit back down. The flight was no longer in turbulent weather, other passengers had gone to the lavatory during this time, and a passenger returning from the lavatory bumped into the attendant as she continued to scold my wife (the seat belt sign was very shortly turned off). Other passengers around us remarked how rude the attendant had been. Later during the flight, an attendant was reclining in the passageway between aisles reading a book. Passengers remarked they were unable to travel between aisles because of the attendant. All the other attendants had disappeared into the back of the plane. Another major encounter was the diabetic breakfast that was served my wife. It was the same breakfast that everyone else received even though it was marked as a diabetic meal. The sugar contents of the meal exceeded one hundred grams (deadly). My wife as unable to eat anything, and an attendant found her a left over piece of bread for breakfast. Items on my tray and others trays were outdated.
March 14, 2008
Non assistance to persons in danger
Without going into excessive detail, as it's not really necessary, I found myself about to pass out from a severe diabetic crisis at a customer service desk in CDG in Paris. I asked for urgent medical aid, and was refused by the attendant. As I was about to pass out, the rage of the other travelers around me encouraged the AF agent to do something. He called, not a doctor, but a wheelchair attendant, whom he ordered to load me onto the plane for New York. I passed out before take off, and no one seemed to have noticed, but fortunately I awoke again from the coma somewhere over the Atlantic.

Article 223-6 of the French penal code, as well as the French constitution, declare that the right of a person in need to necessary aid must be respected. When I complained about this incident Air France responded that after a thorough investigation, they had found that I was lying...seeing my condition, the Air France agent had proposed I see a doctor, and that I had refused his offer of assistance. Even if this were true, ordering someone to load me onto the plane put other passengers at greater risk, because to save my life the plane might have had to make an emergency, unscheduled landing.

No consumer or legal organization has been able to contrast the power of Air France, not even the French Police, with whom I filed charges.
February 14, 2008
Tortuous seating and lack of consideration!
Flight AF 267 from Seoul to Paris, which I experienced on January 12, 2008, was extremely uncomfortable. The Boeing 777 used for this flight had a seating arrangement installed for economy that borders on the inhuman. It is patently not suitable for 10-12 hour flights. It was like a kind of torture.

I am not a large person. I am just 75 kgs and I'm under 6 feet tall, but what I was expected to fit into gave me practically not moving space at all. I don't even believe in such conditions when it comes to livestock animals, and yet here I was reduced to the same kind of confinement. I find it hard to believe that anyone else could find this restricted space acceptable. Why do people put up with it?

After arriving in Paris, we transfered to a flight to Nice on what I believe was an Airbus A320. This aircraft actually had leg room, by which I mean room for a pair of average legs plus some extra space for leg movement. This kind of aircraft would have been much better for the Seoul to Paris flight.

What made Seoul Incheon to Paris all the worse was the rude and inconsiderate passengers in the row in front of me, who were French, by the way, not Korean. As soon as these rude individuals sat down they inclined their seats as far back as they would go, and that's how they stayed for the duration of the flight. That reduced my space considerably. Sometimes the guy in front of my was bouncing on his seat as if to try and force it back further.

I had to get out to stretch at one point and upon my return I looked at the space I was expected to fit in by and I just couldn't believe it. I actually went and inspected other rows to check that my seating was not worse then everyone else's.

Does Air France use such a torturous seating arrangement because it's a Korean flight and because there is a mistaken belief that Koreans are smaller than Caucasians? It is true that the Japanese are smaller on average than Caucasians, and it might have once been true of Koreans, but it is not true of the average Korean anymore, especially the males. Air France needs to adjust its policy, not just for Caucasians like me flying out of Korea, but for Koreans, too.

On top of everything an incident occurred that could only be described as discrimination. My wife, who is Korean, was like me finding the confinement of the seating hard to cope with. By the way, she is somewhat smaller than me, and even she found it torturous. The woman in front of her ignored any protest. At one point, it got too much for my wife and she asked one of the stewards to get the person in front to put her seat up. The steward simply shrugged and did nothing. However, later, my wife noticed a steward asking a Korean passenger to put their seat up at the request of someone seated behind them.

Is there a special rule for French passengers and another rule for everyone else? It would seem so because, to add insult to injury, the rude people in front of us were not even made to put their seats up during meal service. Putting seats upright is usually a standard requirement on all airlines at meal times. Why does Air France not practice this policy? Do you have any idea how difficult it is to eat a meal when the person in front of you has the seat back as far as it will go?

Another issue that made flight AF 267 a draining experience was that the video screens on the seats were not of a consistent size. It seem completely random as to who got a good screen and who didn't. Some people had new larger screens while others like me, who presumably paid the same price for a ticket, got a tiny old fashion screen that was like watching an iPod. This only added to the resentment of the conditions I was expected to endure.

Air France has a monopoly on direct flights to Paris from Korea, so I presume the airline believes it can get away with anything. However, I suggest that Air France should rethink their seating policies and upgrade their fleet. I certainly won't be taking the direct route to Paris again on Air France until I hear that conditions are better.

To learn how to improve Air France need only look and learn from the Koreans. The flight back from Paris was magical with Korean Air compared to the torture of getting there with Air France. With Korean Air, people in economy have more space. The video screens were the largest I had ever seen and the viewing selections the widest range I have ever seen. There must have been about 20 to 30 movies to watch. The staff ensures seats are upright at meal times and were courteous at all times.

I won't go on because, quite frankly, what the French could learn from Koreans, in terms of customer service, transport and consideration of others, would fill an entire book.
February 11, 2008
Inconvenience due to flight delay!
I was on a Flight AF1275 on 28.01.2008 with connecting Flight AF0204. The Flight AF1275 was delayed because of which I missed my connecting Flight AF0204. The Flight AF1275 was scheduled to land at 09.20 hrs, actually landed at 09.50 hrs and by the time to reach the gate it was 10.05 hrs. I had to run to my next flight Gate and I was there at 10.25 hrs but the flight had gone. If the first flight is delayed for no fault of passenger, the second flight shall wait for the passenger coming from connecting flight especially when it is a matter of just 10-15min.

My complaint is basically for the alternative arrangement made for me inspite of better arrangement could have been very much possible. I have been ask to wait for 13hrs at CDG airport for next flight. I was suppose to go to Chennai, India. The new route which was given to me was Paris-singapore (13hrs waiting at CDG & 12.30hrs flight) and another flight Singapore-chennai (2.50hrs waiting at singapore & 4hrs flight). There was a flight Paris-Dubai at 13.30 hrs and there is good connection from Dubai to Chennai by other airlines. I requested a lot but he attending officer were so rude and non-cooperative. I was given just one Sandwitch and Cold drink coupon for 13hrs waiting at airport.

I not only missed my Business schedule in India but also lost one complete day. I shall be compensated fairly for the trouble caused to me for my no mistake (except choosing Air France to fly).
December 18, 2007
Poor service!
I received a letter from someone named Dejan Dumik regarding a letter of complaint I sent not too long ago. After a trip to Paris for business on Air France it was discovered that my luggage was not on the flight with me. Once I had reached my hotel I was told that the luggage would be delivered that evening. That did not happen. I was then told on the next day that it would come at noon. That did not happen. Then I was told it would come at 16:00 h. That did not happen. Then I was told it would be shipped to me and that they were “sorry” for the inconvenience. As I had another stop to make and I did not want to go shopping at H&M for 100 Euros worth of clothes to get me through my trip I went to the airport and picked up my bag. As a result I missed my scheduled train and had to stay in Paris another night. (It was to Germany and trains don’t run that often to certain countries.) Through my frequent traveling I was able to procure a deal with a hotel that was relatively inexpensive and I took a train the next day... no appointments missed. All of this came to around 100 Euros, which, according to the nice young lady that helped me at the Air France Baggage counter, was the amount that would be covered by Air France should I not get my luggage when I was told I would.

Dejan Dumik wrote me and told me about some obscure Article XV. That is unacceptable. When the largest, or one of the largest, airlines in the world bickers over 100 Euros there is a problem somewhere. Had the service run as it should have; had I received my bags when I was told I would receive them instead of getting the “run-around” I never would have had cause to write a letter or go to the airport to get my baggage. Now, Dejan Dumik has my receipts and has the nerve to tell me I can’t be compensated for my time or the inconvenience.

This airline sucks, and that's putting it nicely. If you have the choice between Air France and walking... I would advise walking... you'll be sure to arrive tired and hungry but with your luggage and a fresh change of clothes!
December 15, 2007
Lost baggage and Air France denial!
During my recent trip to INdia, I had bought a musical instrument veena and transported as a baggage in Air France. It did not make it to the airport and they had a list which said so. Now they are saying I made a claim after four days thanks to their wrong information about the airport timings in their consumer center.

I did not know that I had to make a claim immediately. I was not told by the Air France employee and I do not have past experience with it. When I called next day the customer service center also did not advice me of the same. They had wrong timings of the Boston airport baggage center as well in their database. These factors resulted in me in visiting airport twice and not having the ability to get in touch with anybody. The tonnes of calls left with the Boston airport air france baggage center was not returned. Eventually I filed a claim on Thursday which as four days after my arrival. Now the reply from Air France is you made a late claim and we are not responsible for your loss.
October 24, 2007
No facility
My Sister Tejal Tandon flying on 24/10/07 through Air France from Vienna At to Paris Fr through flight No Af2639 which was delayed by 40mins from Vienna in which she had a connecting flight from Paris FR to Mumbai IN through flight No AF134 of 24/10/07 which was missed due to late flight which flew from Vienna AT to Paris FR.

There is no one to help her as my sister is sitting in Terminal 2B near paris de paris there is no Accommodation provided by the airline no meal given to her.

Please someone help my sister as she required Attention or we will be unwontedly have to take this matter to Consumer court.

You can call me on my cell No +919867763618 / +919867763691
October 10, 2007
Poor service!
DO NOT LET YOUR CHILDREN TRAVEL WITH AIR FRANCE!!!

My 16-year old daughter was forced to wait for 10 hours at the airport for a connecting flight, after she had missed hers because the Air France flight was late. Showing total disregard for EU-regulations (An airline is under the obligation to get a passenger onto the next available flight to her destination - it does not matter which airline, and they are responsible for the costs involved, if they were the cause of missed flight).

She was treated with total contempt by the staff of Air France and was not even offered a cup of coffee. After I had written a letter of complaint to Air France, they sent a pathetic letter of apology and distanced themselves from the matter completely (funny you should apologize for something you haven't done) and accused the travel agent of not doing his job. NOT ONLY DO THEY TREAT CHILDREN WITH CONTEMPT, THEY ALSO TRY TO MISLEAD THEIR OWN CLIENTS!

The travel agent has now demanded an apology and some action. I hope I never have to use this pathetic airline again.
October 6, 2007
Rudeness, hostility, incompetence
Air France's employee rudeness is institutionalized. I had purchased confirmed reservations on a trip with multiple legs. Air France suddenly moved one of those legs forward by 1 day, without adjusting the other legs, so I would have shown up at the connecting airport one day late.

I caught the error immediately - then had to spend 8 hours on the phone over the next week, either on hold (45 minutes average time to get through to their so-called Customer Service) or talking to incredibly rude, arrogant and downright hostile incompetents. Eventually got through to a somewhat polite supervisor. This person demanded that I had to be issued new tickets - by the travel agency, since there was more than 10 days left. The agency told Air France that they should issue the new tickets. Eventually the Air France supervisor who directed me to go to a local airport Air France counter to get new tickets issued. When I got there - guess what?

1. They made me and my wife wait OUTSIDE their office (during posted office hours) because the supervisor was "training" an employee (in rudeness, no doubt).
2. Asked us to return in 10 minutes after she heard why we were there (standing outside, of course).
3. When we came back, the supervisor just hastily left.
4. The now-trained rude and hostile employee demonstrated here training on us, with a dazzling display of racist arrogance and hostility that would have left Inspecteur Clouseau speechless in admiration. She flat-out refused to issue the new tickets. She demanded that we send our tickets to some address in some other state. I asked for a copy of the memo that authorized that, so I had some basis for sending my tickets out to an entity who had promised nothing. She refused, saying it was an "internal corporate communication". I asked to speak to the supervisor who told her to do this - she said that person was an internal corporate superrvisor who would not speak to customers.
She told me that I was not Air France's passenger! (Because the ticket, though it said AIR FRANCE, was issued by a prominent global travel agency that probably does 40% of Air France's ticket sales!)

This airline needs to fire its Customer Service Vice-President. The natural rudeness of their employees is doing fine at showing off the quality of the airline and their nation without a highly-paid VP training them to do so.

75% of Air France staff I have had the misfortune to deal with so far, are hostile, rude, and utterly, totally clueless. There have been a very few decent flight crew, and that one supervisor, who seem to be in the wrong company.

This rudeness has GOT to be corporate policy, if it is not a national trait. Maybe they have schools (I mean "ecoles") where they teach gratuitous rudeness?
August 27, 2007
Exaggerated rates
To whom it may concern,

I was at the airport today trying board on a 1:25 flight from Zurich to Brest, FR. The flight was canceled due to the plane breaking down and Air France not having a back up plane. I got to the airport around 12:00pm which was when I found out of the cancellation. There was a 1:15 flight with a stop over in Paris which they did not want to put me on unless I paid an additional 500 swiss francs. (Note: I was not checking any luggage - all I had was a carry on) Instead they had me wait the whole day until 6:05pm and arrive at Brest at 9:40pm.

The 1:15 flight was not fully booked and dont understand how they run their business. It would not cost them a dollar more to put me on the earlier flight. They chose to have a very dissatisfied customer stay in Zurich and miss his cousin's wedding. This would not have happened with any other company. The supervisor did not want to even hear my story. His level of customer service was very unacceptable to say the least.

I paid about 600 francs which was expensive as is for such a short flight. A reasonable fee would have been fine, but to try and charge such an exaggerated rate is beyond human. I would like to make sure that this complaint is heard by top personnel at Air France. I would also like to be refunded some type money if not all. I am very angry, dissatisfied and can't even put into words how I really feel right now. Thank you for your time.

Regards,
Jose

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