ordered several items in one evening and never recieved any of the four items. sellers names are "bean lian" and "jin liu". Alibaba does nothing to help return money, in fact they are in on the scams, offering "gold membership" status for a fee, but means nothing as far as integrity of the business. It has been 40 days since I ordered my items and recived nothing except several fake tracking numbers and a bunch of crap about where my items are. So beware of alibaba and aliexpress websites, the website looks deceivingly good.

I live in Brazil and my hobby during the weekends is automodel.
These products in my country is 100% more expensive than elsewhere, so I decided to look for this product sites.
I found the ALIBABA, the seller gigin LIAN cv.maju.jaya company where I exchanged some e-mails relying on the purchase transaction.
Well, more than 20 e-mails, all of them illuminating.
The minimum purchase would be three units (each at a cost of $ 82) totaling 228.00 USD through Western Union.

I made the transaction with WU on 18/04/2011 and just the other day, the seller simply not responded to my emails. Soon he locks me in ALIBABA leaving me without the product.

Below the data leave the sleazy gigin LIAN;

Bank Mandiri
KK Plaza Bdg Setrasari 13231
Account No: 132-00-1075 393-8
Name: Dani Ferdian
SWIFT Code: BMRIIDJA (bmriidja)

OR

Western Union
Name: Lian gigin
Address: Jln. Cibeunying Kolot No. 15
RT / RW: 03 / 06 Kel. Sadangserang
KEC. Coblong
Postal Code: 40133

DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH PEOPLE THAT THESE DATA !!! THIS IS HIGH IMPORTANCE.

DEATH TO PERSON!

I purchased a product from Jeff Teng via Alibaba. The product did not include a leather case as shown and the product does not work well. I complained to Alibaba and a few weeks later they say they tried to call me. They never left a message. They released the money to him and and told me tough. I gave the merchant a poor rating. Alibaba removed my poor rating of the merchant. He only has glowing comments now. Wonder how many poor ratings they remove to make their merchants look good?

I debated about whether I should share this story, but at the end I decided that my experience might help prevent someone from falling into the same scam as I did. At the time I was young, inexperienced and financially naive. Since then, I’ve learned and improved based on my past failures and eventually went on to run a small but profitable home business by making money online with ebay, at least for a modest period of time.

It All Started With Too Much Greed

Shortly after college I decided I wanted to start a part time side business selling merchandise on eBay. But first I needed to find a wholesale supplier. After some research I decided I wanted to focus on consumer electronics such as GPS navigation devices and Apple iPods, and concluded my best bet at finding a supplier would be through a free network site like Alibaba, that helps connect sellers with buyers of goods. Little did I know at the time, but sites like Alibaba are crawling with scammers and evil doers.

I ultimately decided to focus on selling Garmin and Tom Tom branded GPS units. After a few searches, I was amazed to find numerous sellers offering brand new Garmin GPS units for very little money. The Garmin GPS model I was interested in buying in bulk retailed for more than $1200 on eBay at the time. The sellers I found on Alibaba were offering each unit for only $700 each. The asking prices were exceedingly low, but sadly I was too overcome with dollar signs in my head to realize that the offers were likely too good to be true. I essentially had blinders on and was too busy calculating all the profit I was going to make by selling these units for such high markup. Eventually I narrowed down a potential seller.

Greed Prevented Me From Recognizing the Warning Flags

When you are overcome with greed, it is hard to think clearly, even when a clearly fraudulent transaction is staring at you in the face. I should have been more aware of all the telltale signs that the seller was likely a potential scammer and a fraud. First of all, the seller provided me contact information based in Indonesia, a country like Nigeria that is notorious for being a hotbed of scammer activity. He also provided very limited company background information that could be used to verify his personal or business identity, or determine his true geographical location. The phone number he provided me did indeed work, but I should have realized that nowadays with VOIP technology, phone number locations are very easily faked. It’s easy to reside in one country and still obtain a temporary, disposable local phone number from another. Even paid identity authentication and verification services are subject to abuse and illegal manipulation as well. It’s not all that difficult for online scammers on Alibaba or any other Internet exchange service to obtain a genuine TrustPass or Alibaba Gold Membership certification using falsified identification.

Another thing that should have raised red flags was the fact that the seller offered to pay for shipping, which is an extremely unusual practice for first time wholesale purchases, especially since international shipping can be quite expensive. The seller also insisted on rushing the sale, frequently threatening to end the lucrative deal if I continued to demand more verification information and not move forward with payment. But otherwise, the scammer was extremely convincing in the way he portrayed the deal as completely legitimate. Rather than thinking that the sale was a scam, I just thought I was getting an excellent deal.

Because I was so motivated by greedy emotions, I was more fearful of losing the lucrative buy than I was of being scammed. There were so many warning signs that I simply ignored, such as the seller refusing to accept Paypal or even credit card payment. Instead, he demanded payment through bank wire transfer. If I had conducted more due diligence, I would have known that unlike Paypal or credit card transactions where my money would have been protected, bank wire transactions are permanent and irreversible once properly executed.

I Fell For the Trap – Hook, Line, and Sinker

Ultimately I sent him over $2, 025.00 through bank wire transfer for 3 sample Garmin GPS units. Once he had the money, he disappeared without a trace. I attempted to contact him through the phone number he provided me, but the line had been disconnected. He never responded back to my e-mails and I never received the merchandise. My money was gone and I never recovered it.

Afterwards, I felt very stupid and ashamed, but I learned many valuable lessons as a result. I’m glad I experienced this hard knock life lesson earlier in my life when the potential stakes were lower. I thought something like this could never possibly happen to me, but it did, and I allowed my greedy emotions to get in the way of rational caution. You and I, we may think we’re very smart and that we’re so clever, but we are only human, and still susceptible to basic human emotional irrationality. It’s difficult to control emotions like greed, fear, and pride. So my friends, it’s important to always stay vigilant – scammers are everywhere and one day you might be in their cross hairs too.

Alibaba.com has a site to source equipment. I used it to get USB flash memory. I put in what I wanted and two names popped up.

Ms. Laney Huang
Nanchang City Xinrui Commodity Trade Co.
BaiGangCun Committee Xiaolan Industrial Garden
Jangxi
China
86-150-13660867

or

Ms. Yuyan Zhang
Changzhou Foreign trade Bases Imp
Shanghai
China
0086-21-67156571

I wrote both of these companies.

One of the responses was from someone names Cora @ topelectronic.net. I assumed she was part of one of those original two. Actually, I didn't notice the name of the company was different.

She had the best deal for the micro SD cards and the USB thumb drives, so I sent her the money. After that I had more trouble contacting her. The only way she responded was when I pretended to have a larger second order. Eventually I did receive something in the mail. What I received was only some USB thumb drives that didn't work. Not only did these drives not work, but they were fakes.

I tried to contact Alibaba.com. The company has put lots of roadblocks in my way. I filled out a bunch of forms. Finally I was told the company could not do anything because the name of the company Topelectronic.net was not in their database. Topelectronic.net must have picked up my information from one of those original companies listed in Alibaba.com, but I cannot prove it.

In the end I lost around $150. I have not figured out why Yahoo would want to buy such a company as Alibaba.com.