On September 15, 2010 I received an email from Amazon.com introducing their new program connecting them with American Express’ Membership Points program. As I needed two items for my home and could not afford to buy them outright, I signed onto Amazon’s “Get Started Now” Registration process . On 9/16/10 I registered, Amazon then calculated that my 46, 000+ points had a value on their site of $363.00+ for shopping purposes. (This info was not sent to me but it appeared on the screen and I unable to save it.) I proceeded to shop using my points and ordered a vacuum cleaner and a new phone with an answering machine totaling around $385.00--I would owe Amex some twenty-something dollars.
The order was taken but when I received an email from Amazon.com regarding the order, it looked like the points were not used and they had charged my American Express card which is not what I authorized them to do. In fact, I never would have purchased these items if not for my points. I am working a 1/4 job because of the economy and do not have the funds for these items now. I immediately emailed both Amazon and Amex with copies of the order and stated that I thought something odd had happened with their website and the connection to the Amex Points Program.
To date, I have called Amex 3-4 times. Each time, the Membership Rewards Dept. told me that initially Amazon was having some difficulty with starting up the program and hooking into Amex. Each rep. at Amex said that I would be contacted by phone, email or letter to correct the problem of charging my points. Last week, I called Amazon.com and spoke with R. and then her supervisor, B. Both said that I failed to click on the box that said “Use Membership Points” and thus my Amex was charged and that there was NOTHING that they could do about it. I find this hard to believe.
As far as I am concerned, I am falling into the cracks of consumer fraud...I had a come on offer from Amazon, I followed each and every screen/window to register and then place the order and something went wrong...not on my part, on Amazon’s. I am quite a loyal Amazon customer and to be treated with such disrespect and contempt is outrageous. R and B told me to ship back the Miele vacuum cleaner and the phone and then reorder them the correct way by clicking on the points box! If that is not an insane suggestion, I do not know what else to say. What incompetence. I have not only used the vacuum cleaner but I threw out the box and I am not about to pay UPS to pack it and ship it back to them and reorder it...this is the ultimate of absurdity. And then they emailed me two surveys asking if they had done a good job and solved my problem...this is surreal.
I also called Amex Membership Points again and spoke to " C ". He reiterated what all the Amex reps have before, that there was a problem with Amazon and the points program and it has been resolved. He offered to let me use $200.00 of my points towards the $363.00 that Amazon had quoted me...what is going on here? FRAUD. I was offered $363.00+ by Amazon, not $200.00. This is fraudulent.
As a consumer I registered with Amazon, got the calculation of my 46, 000+ points to $363.00+ Amazon dollars, ordered and voila, the computer program that existed at the time with Amazon charged my Amex and NOT MY POINTS!!! And now I am writing this letter since I am unable to get a human being at either company to think outside of the box and charge my points as they said they would. Way too outside of the box kind of thinking required.
I sent a registered return receipt letter to Amazon, Amex and the NY State Attorney General's Fraud Division with full email back up. And here is a copy of the two emails that I just received back from Jeff Bezos' Exec. Asst. who conferred with Jeff about my consumer problem:
Here is Amazon's email responses to my certified letter of complaint to them: (These are real emails--names withheld to protect me.)
Email #1
Dear "My Name",
I'm Aaron DeFoe of Amazon.com's Executive Customer Relations. Jeff Bezos received your letter and asked me to respond on his behalf.
I’m sorry to hear about your frustrating experience with your American Express Reward Points. I’m currently looking to see what happened with your orders and expect to have an answer for you in the next 1-2 business days.
If you have additional questions in the meantime, please feel free to contact me directly at
[email protected]. Thanks for your patience, and I’ll be in touch again soon.
Regards,
Aaron M DeFoe
Executive Customer Relations
Amazon.com
http://www.amazon.com
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Email #2
Dear " My Name ",
As you may recall, I'm Aaron DeFoe of Amazon.com's Executive Customer Relations.
I’ve reached out to our payments team and they’ve confirmed your points weren’t selected at the time you placed your orders. During the checkout process there are three options to choose when paying with points, and the default setting is to use no points.
We try very hard to make this process apparent and I’m sorry for any misunderstanding. While your points weren’t’ used, I’ve confirmed you do have a total of 58, 082 points available for future orders.
I've applied a $50.00 promotional discount directly to your account for use on your next Amazon.com order. I hope you'll accept this as both a gesture of goodwill and an apology for this bad experience.
When you place your next qualifying order, you'll see the promotional funds listed on the Order Summary page, just before you submit your order. If the funds aren't shown, please read the following to ensure your order qualifies:
http://www.amazon.com/o/tg/browse/-/3145051/
"My name", I’m sorry for all the time you’ve spent and I hope you’ll give us another chance. Please feel free to contact me directly at
[email protected] if I can be of further assistance.
Regards,
Aaron M DeFoe
Executive Customer Relations
Amazon.com
As of today, after being a loyal customer of Amazon.com for years and spending thousands of dollars, I am being told to shove it and pay for it. The corporate culture reeks of GREED and GREED and nothing more. I am appealing to the Consumer Fraud Division of The New York State Attorney General for their help. This is like an entrapment case. I followed the bait, registered with the site, selected my items for points payment and puff, their program had kinks and now I cannot use my $363.00 worth of Amex points. I am being told that I am the problem maker, the one who selected the wrong payment option, that it was all my fault! I made the mistake. Well that is factually incorrect.
Going forward, we all need to find alternatives to Amazon.com for online purchasing until they incorporate business practices that are NOT FRAUDULENT AND DECEPTIVE AND MISLEADING. Google : Alternative Sellers to Amazon.com and you will find many. In the meantime, I now have to deal with American Express and the Office of Andrew Cuomo, the hopefully soon to be new Gov of New York.
Thank you for reading this. Maude Geller, NYC