I hired programmers through an online 3rd party company to build software for my website after being held up for money offline for more money I parted ways with these programmers; even thou the site was almost complete.

I then hired a local guy and his company to finish out the project. I investigated this company, their work and all seemed to checked out. I met with him and after he confirmed that he could complete my project and fix what was left plug the bugs I gave him a $800 cashiers check the deposit. (money that I do not have; disabled son, previous coders experience)

I did not sign a contract, the contract that I was aware of was verbal and thru email.

After the meeting I notice he is now hard to get a hold of and the he tells me that he is going on vacation and his 3 programmers will be dealing with my project. I asked for him to give them my contact info and asked if I could have theirs. Well, he refused to give me THEIR contact details! Mind you when I first met him he promised that I could communicated with whom I wish so that the project completed!

I asked him what the status of my project was and he states that the programmers have worked on it for over 25 hours on it (2-3 days in). I asked him to present me with the work. He gave me work that I did not ask for, which was a new design for my site. I explained that all this was already done and to only work on the coding. Two days pass and again he presents me with an updated version of this same design work.

He then tell me that he has not worked on the coding yet, just looked over my notes. The work is this template?? And it take 45 clocked hours to do this??

I decided to cancel officially. Note, I did try to cancel on the 2nd day as something did not seem right, but he convinced me that I was over reacting. So I officially canceled 7 days into the project.

He now is saying that I owe him for 50% of the original project cost and will take me to court unless I pay??! And I must legally pay as his site states that I am under his terms of agreement. But, it also states upon signing the contract, which I did not do! Mind you this terms of service was NOT on his site when I initially gave him the money, nor did he make me aware of any such terms. He stated that I was the customer and that if I was not happy within a reasonable time frame that he would give me my deposit back. (Yes, I know next time get it in writing!)

Soo... I decided to investigate further and I am now thinking that the 2nd programmer is actually a scam artist and this is why:

His company's IP seemed on the up and up, but then I did more research and found his name associated with another domain and this site also has the same IP address.

Then I do more research as things just seem WRONG! I cross referencing the phone number/fax listed and it pulls up under other domains with different IP addresses; BUT THEY ARE REPORTED for FRAUD! These people claim that these IPs had something to do with stealing money and or their identities!! I found this info ALSO REPORTED ON THIS VERY SITE!

Here are the DETAILS:
The company that I "WORKED" with was www.cfmgmt.com IP: 74.54.219.210 (US) The MANAGER is Chris Flesher *the man that I gave the cashiers check to)

Administrative Contact:
Flesher, Chris [email protected] (the email that I have is: [email protected])
1629 Glenbrooke ct
Rochester Hills, Michigan 48307
United States
(248) 670-0472 Fax --

Then I accidentally find this listed code on the net (notice the email address):
http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/63.251.20.151:28960
− fragxperts http://www.fragxperts.com [email protected] Active *prof − Come play on our pub server <a href="http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/63.251.20.151:28960/" target="_blank"><img src="http://cache.www.gametracker.com/server_info/63.251.20.151:28960/b_350x20_C692108-381007-FFFFFF-000000.png" border="0" width="350" height="20" /></a> <a href='http://img193.imageshack.us/my.php?image=professorfx.gif'><img src='http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/3634/professorfx.gif' border='0' alt='Image Hosted by ImageShack.us'></a><br>

So I cross referenced these domains within this code and found...
www.fragxperts.com 's IP is 74.54.219.210 THE VERY SAME IP AS THE ABOVE PROGRMMER - Chris Flesher... but it lists different contact details, so I cross refernce the below phone and fax...

Administrative Contact:
Private, Registration
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2598

So I cross reference the (480) 624-2599 and Fax -- (480) 624-2598 numbers and find...

That MANY PEOPLE state that this is the very contact details that they understand people are perpetrating fraud against them.

Here is an Example from this complaints board:
Title of posting: I am a victim of this fraudulent company!
Comment: I checked my bank statement when i found that people take 49.95 from my account without my permission my bank give to me(1-866-379-5984)and i called, i was given this website (www.quickcards services.com) NO CLUE. I report to my bank THIS IS FRAUD. I WANT MY MONEY my account is negative now please help us.
MANY DETAILS and THEN (notice the phone/fax numbers):

Quote: Finally, here is the string of information I've been able to obtain so far:

Phone Number 888-495-3091
Ask for Jerry M. Klein

Joshua Finer (Asst scam artist)
[email protected]

[email protected]

[email protected]

Fedex Envelope:

GIACT SYSTEMS INC.
303 S JUPITER RD STE 100
Allen, TX 75002-3049
(800) 839-6510

Customer Service: 1-866-379-5984

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Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: VIRTUALWORKSLLC.COM
Created on: 13-Nov-06
Expires on: 13-Nov-07
Last Updated on:

Administrative Contact:
Private, Registration [email protected]
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2599

Technical Contact:
Private, Registration [email protected]
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2599

Administrative Contact [624186]:
Moniker Privacy Services [email protected]
Moniker Privacy Services
20 SW 27th Ave.
Suite 201
Pompano Beach
FL
33069
US
Phone: 1.9549848445
Fax: 1.9549699155


Billing Contact [624186]:
Moniker Privacy Services [email protected]
Moniker Privacy Services
20 SW 27th Ave.
Suite 201
Pompano Beach
FL
33069
US
Phone: 1.9549848445
Fax: 1.9549699155


Technical Contact [624186]:
Moniker Privacy Services [email protected]
Moniker Privacy Services
20 SW 27th Ave.
Suite 201
Pompano Beach
FL
33069
US
Phone: 1.9549848445
Fax: 1.9549699155

Domain name: www.EASYSMSMONEY.COM

Administrative Contact:
Webmaster, Webmaster Whois Privacy and Spam Prevention by DomainTools.com
2000 - 1066 West Hastings Street
Vancouver, B.C. V6E 3X2
CA
604-999-4403
Technical Contact:
Webmaster, Webmaster Whois Privacy and Spam Prevention by DomainTools.com
2000 - 1066 West Hastings Street
Vancouver, B.C. V6E 3X2
CA
604-999-4403

Registration Service Provider:
This company may be contacted for domain login/passwords,
DNS/Nameserver changes, and general domain support questions.

Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
Record last updated on 04-Sep-2006.
Record expires on 21-Jul-2008.
Record created on 21-Jul-2006.

Domain servers in listed order:
A.NS.I-CAMI.COM 38.118.222.130
B.NS.I-CAMI.COM 38.118.222.134

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: UNITEDCASHLOANS.COM
Created on: 30-Jul-02
Expires on: 30-Jul-07
Last Updated on: 15-Sep-06

Administrative Contact:
Private, Registration [email protected]
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2599

Technical Contact:
Private, Registration [email protected]
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2599

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: CHRISTIANFAITHFINANCIAL.COM
Created on: 23-Oct-04
Expires on: 23-Oct-08
Last Updated on: 22-Feb-07

Administrative Contact:
Private, Registration [email protected]
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2599

Technical Contact:
Private, Registration [email protected]
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2599

(661) 310-2107
(480) 624-2599

Domain name: SECRETCASHCARD.COM

Registrant Contact:
WhoisGuard
WhoisGuard Protected ([email protected] m)
1.6613102107
Fax: 1.6613102107
8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd
8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd
Westchester, CA 90045
US

Administrative Contact:
WhoisGuard
WhoisGuard Protected ([email protected] m)
1.6613102107
Fax: 1.6613102107
8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd
8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd
Westchester, CA 90045
US

Technical Contact:
WhoisGuard
WhoisGuard Protected ([email protected] m)
1.6613102107
Fax: 1.6613102107
8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd
8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd
Westchester, CA 90045
US

Administrative Contact:
Private, Registration [email protected]
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2599

Technical Contact:
Private, Registration [email protected]
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2599

Go Daddy is headquartered in Scottsdale, Arizona and all civil subpoenas should be served at that location or mailed to:

Compliance Department
GoDaddy.com, Inc.
14455 N. Hayden Road
Suite 160
Scottsdale, Arizona
85260

Alternatively, the criminal subpoena can be faxed to:

480.624.2546
Attn: Compliance Department
Notice to Customer and Response Time

Fraud Section Home Page - www.usdoj.gov/criminal/fraud.html
DOJ Home Page - www.usdoj.gov/
www.usdoj.gov/criminal/fraud/text/Internet.htm

THIS SEEMS ODD TO SAY THE LEAST!