Here is the deal on these guys as I have just now experienced this scam within the last few minutes and got my bank IMMEDIATELY involved:

I got in a hurry and ordered both of these "products" when recommended to me and I read what I later determined to be the fake news story (cpomplete with fake "comments" submitted by fake customers) what was published regarding them. Too late, I discovered the obvious tell-tale signs of a scam in the fine print such as fake, ongoing memberships in other groups, suspicious "trial and return" windows of time, paying "their" return shipping instead of actual costs, ongoing expensive billing for "non-cancelled, unreturned" product, etc.

Once I had done a quick read of their tiny print and then Googled their name and "scam" and found this site, I immediately (within minutes of placing the order) called my bank, CHASE, at the Fraud Prevention Dept. and they were outstandingin their response. They quickly confirmed the initial "activity" both of these scoundrels had charged on my card, acknowledged that the charges came from an"international" source (common to these scams, she said), instantly cancelled the payment, cancelled my card number and reissued me a clean one and told me to watch all activity on that account for the next 2 weeks or so just in case they had somehow found a way to access that account, depsite the debit card number being cancelled.

NOTE: Within minutes pf placing the 2 orders and while I was on the phone with my bank, my office switchboard received an automated call in my voice mail (since I knew never to use my personal phone numbers when ordering anything) which was requesting that I call 1-877-475-4180 to "verify" my order which I suspected was actually their way to "claim I further verified and authorized" this purchase AND was a way for them to make sure they had a working number they could use to harass me in the future (according to other complaints I have read at this web site). I will still call them to "formally cancel" my order but will do so from a phone number that they cannot reach me at.