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Category: Business & Finances
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United States
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Conseco Reviews
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liz s
March 28, 2011
Money scam
We got a check in the mail saying we were selected to be a mystery shopper, The intruction said to deposit the check wait to clear (which it did in 5 days) then wire tranfer $2000 to lisbeth okeefe in N.Y, then to take $250 to shop and keep the items. We did all of this. two weeks went by just to found out the check was bad and the bank don’t know why or how it took that long. Now we owe the bank $3000. We did reported to the police, united post office inpector, western union & state attorney general. Western union have her correct information or at least the information on her DL. I am waiting for the detective on the case to contact them. I know we won’t see the money back, but I am hoping for them to find them.
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Jenny Kilman
July 8, 2009
fraudulent loan
This is the letter sent to EMC Legal Dept so that they won't be a victim of a lawsuit since Conseco sold them a fraudulent loan.
Ronald G. Kilman
Jeannette F. Kilman
7326 Potters Trail
Austin, Texas 78720
April 28, 2009
Legal Department
EMC Mortgage
2780 Lake Vista Drive,
Lewisville, TX 75067
EMC Loan Number: 0008872095
We just received a letter from EMC Information Counselor for what was considered a mortgage loan. This loan is not a mortgage loan, it is a fraudulent loan that Conseco/GreenTree sold to EMC. In March 2002 we refinanced our home with Conseco. At that time the agent that was handling the mortgage loan asked us to consider a $10, 000.00 Texas Side Loan so he would get a bonus by getting us to accept the loan and that he would give me a $100 Sears gift card, which he did. After we did the mortgage loan, we were told to go to the Conseco Office in Southwest Austin to sign the Texas Side Loan. The agent was not there and the loan signing was monitored by a Mexican woman. Once we had signed the $10, 000.00 Texas Side Loan, Ronald was told to go to the front desk to get the check. I waited in the room with the Mexican to get our copy of the Texas Side Loan paperwork. She called another Mexican woman into the room, handed her the paperwork, and told her “viente” and I said, “No, diez!” since the loan was for $10, 000.00, not $20, 000.00. We were never given a copy of the loan paperwork at that time and told it would be sent to us which it never was. I called the office so many times after we signed the loan but the phone number had been disconnected and the agent that handled the mortgage loan wasn’t in Austin anymore. We began paying the $346.33 in April 2002 and then every month.
Several months later, we received a letter from GreenTree telling us to send the $346.33 payment to their address which we did. Then in May of 2003 we received a letter from EMC stating that we needed to send the $346.33 payment to them which we have done every month and have paid over $27, 000.00 now. We refinanced our home with AmeriQuest when we were told that Conseco was out of business in 2003. Everytime we have refinanced our home EMC has been called and the agent was told that the loan with EMC was not a mortgage loan, it never was.
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I got in touch with EMC in November 2008 to find out when our loan was going to be paid off and then I was told it was a $20, 000.00 loan with a 16.9000% interest rate which was not the truth. The $10, 000.00 Texas Side Loan had a 6.9% interest rate. I contacted the Texas Attorney General Office for help in dealing with this fraudulent thing that Conseco did by selling this loan to EMC and the Texas Department of Savings and Mortgage Lending office, Bill Poe, Investigator, tried to help us with this fraudulent thing but since they dealt with mortgage loans and the Texas Side Loan was not a mortgage loan, but a noncollateral loan, they were not able to help us but told us to hire an attorney to file a lawsuit against EMC for this problem. That would not be fair since EMC is the victim of a fraudulent loan sold to them by Conseco/GreenTree.
My congressman will deal with this problem unless EMC will be able to deal with this issue and allow us to cease being the victim of this fraudulent $20, 000.00 loan. EMC sent me copies of the loan they were given by Conseco/GreenTree which showed the loan to be $20, 000.00 and signed by us, but the page with our signatures was the end page to the Texas Side Loan for the $10, 000.00 that we signed in March 2002, but apparently the Mexicans changed everything and never sent us a copy of the Texas Side Loan we signed. Since we have already paid over $27, 000.00 for the $10, 000.00 Texas Side Loan perhaps we can have some of our money back. It is horrible that Conseco/GreenTree would do this sort of thing to EMC and it has been hard for me to get in touch with anyone at EMC because of the way the EMC phone is set up.
I am now disabled and it is very hard for me to deal with this issue. I spoke to Mark Kasak last week and he asked me to write a letter to the legal department to explain the fraudulent situation created by Conseco/GreenTree that we both have been victims of.
Please let me know what we can do to solve this miserable fraudulent situation.
Sincerely,
Ronald G. Kilman Jeannette F. Kilman
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Lolla
March 31, 2009
Awful company
Hey fellow seekers of justice. I purchased a 1995 Oakwood mobile home for my sister in 2000. The mobile home had been financed through Conseco by the previous owners. I bought it for the reminder of their loan, which was $14, 000($17, 000 after closing costs, taxes, fees, ect.) Things were ok until my sister gave birth to her child, and was late on a payment. They called the very evening it was due, and demanded their money. No questions or inquiries, just demands. She paid it days later, and got late once more almost a full year afterwards. They called again and were as rude as ever. So we paid up again. We had a waterpipe bust and it made the carpet wet around one of the doors. The insurance on it was part of the payment, so we called them trying to get information on when they could fix it. We never got contact with anyone. We paid everything up and let it go back. I sent a registered letter explaining our actions.
A full 2 months later, they called me asking when I was making the next payment(in a totally fake, sincere sounding voice). I told them I had sent a letter explaining everything. They claimed they never got it. How could they claim they never got it, when I sent it registered? Who signed for it, The Tooth Fairy? Also, they called the exact evening of the day it was due, whenever it was late. Why did they wait 2 months to contact me, if they weren't waiting for me to go into default? They claimed it had been late 10 times, even though they only called twice. Turns out, they add a $7 fee for everyday the payment was late, but they never included it in the monthly payment, as it NEVER changed. It was $288 every month. Everytime we paid the $288, they considered that being late, because we didn't pay the extra $7, even though they never asked for it!!!
I told them what they could do with their trailer. It finally got hauled off in 2003, months after she had moved out. In 2005(a full 2 years later people), they claimed they could turn me in and garnish my wages. They said they had sold it for a measly $1050!!! They wanted the rest of their money. I asked them why it hadn't been sold for a fair market value. They said they could sell it for whatever they wanted to, as long as they took the highest bid. I was NEVER contacted to be told when it would be sold, I was NEVER told it had been sold, and I had not had ANY contact with them in 2 full years. I told them to take me to court.
In 2007 I received a letter claiming they had canceled the debt. Here's the kicker: The $16, 000 left was reported to the IRS as taxable income!!! They have the trailer, I never received a penny in my hand, and I STILL have to pay taxes on the loan!!!
It's a bit discouraging, but at least Conseco didn't get anymore of my money. Just wait them out folks. They file bankruptcy every 5 years or so. It's a pyramid scheme.
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May 12, 2008
12 years of ripping me off
My husband, Clarence Smith, died in Houston on May 13, 1996.
He had a cancer policy from Transport Life, which later was bought by CONSECO Insurance. When he died, I sent a copy of his death certificate and a letter requesting they close his policy and no longer take funds from my bank account, since he had just died of pancreatic cancer. I assumed, they would be professional enough to act on my request. Almost 12 years later, my bank upgraded their computers and suddenly, there was more information on the withdrawal line which showed that they were taking TWO amounts out each month, for a total of around eighty one dollars and forty three cents ($81.43) a month, around a grand a year, which, for 11 years and 11 months, it totals to very close to 12 thousand dollars. TWELVE THOUSAND.
I have thus far sent TWO certified letters including the complaint and demand for return of my money, taken out in an unauthorized fashion since I withdrew my authorization when my husband died. I have also faxed and mailed and emailed this complaint, including supporting documents.
They have not responded YET. I am an 82 year old widow woman, having lost my last husband on November 9, 2007, and I rely on my fixed income to live. For CONSECO insurance, and its CEO, Mr. Claude James Prieur, who now, has affirmative knowledge of my complaint and allegations and demand for refund in full, for him NOT to immediately refund my money, is shameful, and points out exactly how CONSECO runs its business.
Please call 317-817-6100 and DEMAND Mr. Jim Prieur get onboard with integrity, hook up with honesty, and do the right thing!
Thank you.
Mrs. Laverty
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