My name is Mike, I applied to C.R. England to get some OTR experience. I already had my class "A" with endorsements and wanted to get some OTR experience, well I put in an application with them and a recruiter called me back. she asked me some questions and asked what I wanted from C.R. England. I said I wanted to be a Company " SOLO" Driver and that I wanted to be trained for winter and mountain driving, she said that I would get what I wanted. She faxed me the application and included all the paper work. I filled it all out and sent it back to her. I was "ACCEPTED into their program and started the training at a "REDUCED FEE". Anyway, when I finished the class room and course work, it was made perfectly clear by no uncertain terms that as a student driver and trainee, I was "NOT" an Employee of C.R. England. well that was ok with me. I was just there for the experience. Well while I was out on the road with a trainer that onoly had 5 months of driving experience I soon found out that this guy wasnt making any money, he was a lease driver and was broke as hell he didnt have a C.B., phone or any money. I had to pay for his meals, showers and laundry, let him use my phone and pay for the toll roads. This guy was broke and had some seriously horrid oral hygene. I really felt sorry for him. i had also done some asking aroud at the truck stops about C.R. England and found out from company drivers and lease operators that England was not hiring anymore company drivers. i called the recruiter and asked if this was true she said it was infact true and appologized. she said if i wanted to drive for C.R. England i would have to lease a truck. well with all that said, i started to investigate the lease program and after doing the numbers with my step brother whom owns his own trucking company (woulda went to work for him but his insurance wouldnt carry me because i didnt have enough experience) and my step father we found out that C.R. England pays .90 cents a mile to lease operators well after tax, broker fees, pallet charges, insurance, licensing, fuel, permits and maintenance it was actually .035 cents a mile in your pocket. i just couldnt afford to do it. i opted out of the training at that point. mind you they said i was NOT an employee of C.R. England. Well i was on unemloyment throu this whole time. i didnt get paid as they said i would and wouldnt you know it when it came time to renew my unemployment and the unemployment agency contacts England, they say i was an employee. now my unemployment has been cancelled and they want me to pay back more that $12, 000.00 because i quit my job and because i was an employee of C.R. England i wasnt entitled to benefits. now im between a rock and a hard place. i am filling a legal complaint with the Attorney Generals office here in Las Vegas and we'll see where that goes. if any of you have a story similar to this maybe you can contact me and we can all get together and put a stop to this. You can call 702-204-7835 to respond to this.

Thanks.

Mike

As a former trainer and recruiter I have a few tips to anyone planning on going to work for C.R. England. As someone with a college background in Business I can clearly explain why a lot of people get upset about working for such an employer. First off you need to have a good understanding of what you are doing when you become an independent driver. You are now a business owner and need to protect yourself at all costs. Know the differences between a Sole Proprietorship and an LLC. This saves you a lot of legal worries. England would prefer you to be a SP because in the long run it makes for an easy way to go after you for any money. I can sit here all day and tell people ways that England screwed me but England Prays upon people who really need the work. Next, read the fine print. Finally, for the Post that came from the driver who says he is making money I can show a 20:1 ratio of drivers who would challenge that. I still talk 2 a few of my former students who are trying to get some miles under them so they can get out. I am one of a small group that knew what to expect and prepared for it. Feel free to reply to my message and I may be able to save you from what I call, “legalized pimping.” I liquidated my business and kept my credit rating in tact. By the way for anyone challenging this post I liked to drive that is why I did it, furthermore, I quit and went back home to pursue my MBA. But I still drive for fun (when time allows).