Never have I seen or heard such absurd people. One is suppose to be a horse trainer/coach. Husband is a farrier and the other we aren't real sure. If you have dealings with these people be careful. They were invited into peoples lives that trusted them and they took full advantage of everyone!!! They leave, make up stories to everyone on how they were kicked out and then continuously lie to people and use people. I was just an outsider that came at the end, but saw the havoc they caused and continue to cause. They really need to get a life, move on everyone else has.