Hello
Just to know if you work for ALIBABA?
Precisely because I complained on Alibaba scam forum not only have I had the worst trouble validating my complaint, in addition there is no button at the bottom of page on the forum to do after entering the captcha characters . I had to copy / paste the link and there is also a problem is limited in terms of characters. Must make a choice. Do you believe that Alibaba and 40 thieves leave us the choice we mourn the victims. It is dramatic, because among all the victims can not afford and scrape the bottom of the barrel to be conned by aliens from China.
Me from my experience that put my life on the ground, I say scam artists in qu'Alibaba is GREAT SCOPE that can exist and I do not care since this is how you had castigated, they make available establish a forum to come the litany of all thefts and validated by him.
It Alibaba that we trust and it is he who sends us these crooks packaged in a gift, they need only pay a fee to have the right to recoup their bets by flying poor people in poverty and to finish it yet Alibaba which provides various platforms, many tools to defraud, swindle, defraud. Alibaba is the THIEF, ALIBABA and it must compensate us because Alibaba deceives the whole world.

Hello
Thank you for your contact, because it is dramatic in the lives of poor people who invest the little money they still saved from economic crisis to invest like me.
That was my whole life because I could not work every day in an office, my health care needs complicated and can not remain inactive, except when I die, I made scammed on Alibaba (for me and alibaba 40 Thieves), since by the findings, they literally throw you into the hands of thieves, because they are themselves issuing the famous sesame "gold begging" and their communication system "trademanager" so that crooks can put into action their plans well thought out to rob poor people.
For we must not forget their many vendors with names of Callgirls it feels like a brothel who solicit on all day, ringing the buzzer.
I've just bitter experience and the disease was aggravated, I can not sleep can not eat.
Initially, we are ashamed of being scammed in this way with people who see you as pigeons to pluck, no compassion for human beings you are.
They are monsters, aliens.
Alibaba put me in connection with a company ranked GOLD SUPPLIER is therefore confident that I listened to some blablas "Alina" who during the conversation trademanager that I recorded everything in his 79 pages on word knowledge, I asked him his real name he or she (I forget) said "LAN LUO" and I asked for her service she gave me this explanation: "The brave man who braves the mountains "For a girl, the meaning of this name should put me on alert.
We started on trademanager, current end-March to April 2010 through because when I discovered an anomaly, she was quick to give me a plausible answer, or it's late in China, where she is hungry she must go to restore or she is sleepy, or I just got out of school and this is my first job, give me a chance ... etc.
So the first order and I refused to pay by western union, in fact I could not have, because in France we are limited to 500 €, I proposed to her and she refused Pal those discussions lasted one week and I 'were intractable, she suggested moneygram, I do not know this method or indeed western union in name only.
I thought I had convinced to Paypal when, after eight hours of discussion during which a stroke so it is not a coup. Not counting the many times she should seek the advice of his manager. I called him simply email the financial department to make a single payment of $ 2, 823.50 for the company.
She complained that he had made three times scammed by Paypal. (Note that myself, I was tired, worn out by incessant pain and mind muddled by drugs) if I immediately detected the contradiction, since freshly out of school, so inexperienced How could she be fooled three times???
But in the meantime I had loads of other vendors of smartphones, iphones, mobiles etc. ...
I was taking regularly for various messages and when there was that interested me I was scoring.
The company that contacted me, in which Alina supposedly worked for only two weeks is called WWW.OKBUYTRADE.COM. Email address: [email protected]
Now I received in my mail messages on a certain Jessy who works for the company:
WWW.SZVIETERTRADE.COM and email address: [email protected]
And here is the email address of the financial department OKBUYTRADE: [email protected] given by Alina of OKBUYTRADE.
When I asked surprised how many websites it has? She said 1. And I'm pointing out the similarity of emails that I would make a payment with another company says it does not know. She sent me a series of manager's certificates which were indecipherable puisqu'écrits Chinese.
Then they were laments, sudden fatigue, the late hour in China, and suddenly it is I who am a crook trying to rip through Paypal. From this shift, I made the mistake of showing him that I am perfectly honest and I'll prove it.
But I can not under any circumstances use Western Union or other monegram, but I will make a bank transfer bench. And when I asked the bank details of the company, she sent those of the manager and I stress a bank statement of the company and she told me that the company belongs to: Mr. PING PING SHEN, manager.
She gave me the information below, but not only the IBAN SWIFT (In China they do not use IBAN:
So sure of myself because I thought there will be traced, I gave the order for transfer to my bank for the benefit of PING PING SHEN the south bank of china branch. Amount: $ 2, 823.50.
They collected the money May 10, 2010, but during the transit time of the transfer, I had orders for graphics cards and I asked Alina if she had, it was yes! But as the wire transfer from my first order was already gone, as if by chance it makes me money so I can pay by western union without exceeding the limit and when I refused they were still about my intentions regarding the trick, because she had received no transfer for me and all my arguments of time, distance (Franc-China), and the processing time of the transfer order etc. My ... responses do not reassured, or she pretended panic, turning the situation by making me go for one that wants to deceive.
Tired and pressed by my customers, I gave in and I sent him $ 585 by Western Union.
When I asked him to give me first graphics cards, as urgent, she tells me they are consolidating all the orders from the same client, and as they offered me the delivery, they are the cheapest. I asked him to send them to me by UPS and all I'll pay the fees. She said okay, it must refer to the department "logistics".
It is from this point, it gradually began to be invisible, to eliminate me from his contacts. It can reach me but I do not.
So I asked a friend to pose as a customer, what he has done it again and again to give him the same speech, "I'm fresh out of school, give me a chance ... etc." and suddenly this friend is pretending to be an officer of the French police and had filed a complaint against her and her company, she began to panic, to get confused and told him bluntly that she is in hospital gravely ill, why she had not answered to my requests. My friend started to believe it and I told him to ask him for the receipt of the shipment of goods, she sent me the form of postage of parcels which she already sent me the tracking code, and although I waited a period of two days, after the fourth day, the ID was still inactive. Besides the part of the schedule which should include weight, date and cost of the shipment is empty words.
Then again through my friend, I shoved by threatening to contact the police in her residence that is to say, the site address. She admitted not having had time to send and it will do the next day and everything is as it is closed.
The next day she sent us more of the same empty scanned bill as proof, and I would insist when my friend told me that the ID tracking starts to move and he asked me to leave room for doubt, since the package starts at evolve. But me from beginning to end I was skeptical night and day, because I thought if she did not provide evidence that the waybill is that there is a reason. And I did not hurt the parcel, which was only 4 kg, the package contained five fake iPods and Apple 3iphones style replica and to accumulate heavy 4 kg.
It was a decoy, and since radio silence.
For a month I asked Alibaba evidence on evidence, I spent nights and days to earn, write to all their desires and the last time they sent me a form in Chinese to complain against them, even the form translated and completed by myself, I can not upload it.
For cons, the same day as I knew I made defrauded, another branch of Alibaba ETOCN which includes: suppliers handpicked, Alipay, Taobao, when service member is subject to $ 200 and buyers on site must be paid in addition, the delivery of goods brought together an office with an address in Shenzhen, Lisa took some automatically contact me, and extolled the merits of this service which Alibaba takes care of everything, so no scam at this level. But once I subscribed to this service, I discovered that the smallest service fee and the $ 200, have served to have an address in Shenzhen, as providers of elites, they are the same scum changing names and going up in rank according to the criteria of alibaba judge.
As to use Alipay's a complicated and tricky that I abandoned after several sleepless.
The buyers in turn, they send you an Excel file, the same used by thieves to make you prepared in the list of goods and the price you pay accounts for each item, thing I did and found that advertised prices are too low and they referred me to the Greek calenders.
The thief OKBUYTRADE MR PING PING SHEN, at the request of the bank branch Jade South, admitted he relieved me of: 3408, $ 50, he admits, by cons it refuses to reimburse me for no reason .
Last week I testified on the forum alibaba scam because someone was getting ready to do business with them and I did not hesitate to tell me that Alibaba is contributing to the fraud, they censored me send me an email. How could this be otherwise, they not only have not punished, they have not been transferred and not the icing on the cake, they are not in the list of fraudsters to alibaba and when I do research in their OKBUYTRADE SZVIETER list and are honest (0 Scam).
A recent discovery that has escaped me: The address of the Bank of China Jade South Branch and the address listed on their site OKBUYTRADE are the same.
The three banks in South Branch XIAMEN, are not at this address.
So my question is: HOW MR PING PING SHEN PU CASH AT IT THIS MONEY
WITHIN A BANK THAT DOES NOT EXIST PHYSICALLY??? And the status quo with total alibaba, bank of china Jade in Paris and also with my Bank which is Boursorama.
Nobody answers.
That is my testimony and a lot of evidence to support.

L’adress: OKBUYTRADE
OKBUYTRADE : 6168 ZHONGSHAN ROAD
SIMING DISTRICT
XIAMEN CITY
ZIP Code : 361006
CHINA
L’Adresse de la Banque of China Jade
Il s’agit de :
Bénéficiaire
Prénom/First name : PING PING
Nom/Last name : SHEN
Banque/Bank:
BANK OF CHINA JADE
XIAMEN BRANCH SUB-BRANCH
6168 ZHONGSHAN ROAD
SIMING DISTRICT
XIAMEN CITY
ZIP Code : 361006
CHINA
Swift : BKCHCNBJ73C
Compte bancaire/Benk’s account: 4552301-0188-128918-1