Royal Holiday

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June 6, 2007
Scam in Nassau
Signed up for trail package in Nassau on May 7th 2007. Promised benefits do not match what the package offers. Promised European vacation and Alaskan cruise neither is available under trial membership rules. Promised maximum $200 per vacation found that the fee is $400. Have been unable to cancel.
June 3, 2007
Royal Holiday scam visitor in Nassau
On May 8 2007, we went to Nassau for 3 days vacation. I attended a seminar at the Wyndham Nassau Resort hotel which was arranged by an organization named as "Royal Holiday". A sale representative & sale Manager tried to sell us a holiday package. It should be an half an hour presentation with no obligation to purchase anything. However, the sale team hold us for 4 hours until we joined a trial member package. The sale representative told us that with this package, we will pay a fixed hotel price for 7 years everywhere around the world that we want to take our vacation. It sound good...
We did not see the package until I signed the contract agreement. When we returned to the hotel, we reviewed the package contents and realized that, the package did not indicate the same deal with the fixed hotel price as sale representative told us.

On next Morning(5/9/2007), I went to the sale office and tried to see the sale manager. No one let me to talk to the manager. I had to talk to a female clerk who did not want to identify her name. I requested to cancel the contract ( in the contract indicated that I have 30 days to cancel this contract with full refund). She was denied and ignore my request. I requested for a contract cancellation form and the requested her to put a cancellation on my contract. However, she told me the contract was already sent out to the main office. I had to put my request in a piece of paper with my signature. I requested her to put a time stamp with her signature to acknowledge my cancellation. She hesitated to do that. I was refused to leave the office until she did that. However, she refused to write her name along with her signature. I returned the whole package and asked her to check the content of the package and signed to accept my return package. I told her that since this package was cancelled, I denied to make any payment.

When I returned to US on 5/9/2007, I called my credit card company to dispute any charge that submit on the behave of Royal Holiday as part of this contract. When I received the credit card bill, the charge was on my bill with the posted date of 5/22/2007 for the amount $775.00 I also received another bill from "Monterey Financial Service in California in reference to this contract for the amount of $156.25.

I don't know if these group of people working at Wyndham Nassau Resort are really represent Royal Holiday. The contract did not have the Business address, phone number and the manager who signed the contract did not have his name on the contract. Anyone who plans to travel to Carribean. Please be aware of this scam. Do not waste your time to attend this seminar. It does not worth. Please think twice before you attend this seminar.
May 31, 2007
Hyatt Cancun supports scamming Americans
I can't see how the headquarters of Hyatt can support the promotion of scamming Americans against the advise of the United States State Department. Where are the headquarters of some of these hotels? If they are American Companies, then the hotels should be sued, and maybe we can get some action from them? Is there a way to find out which corporations own the hotels being used in the scams. I say if we can let's go after the hotel chains that are not owned by Royal Holiday and make them notify their guests of the United States State Department warning. Every guest at the Hyatt in Cancun should be given a copy of the warning against Mexican Time Shares. I can't believe this company is complicate in stealing from me.
May 29, 2007
United States State Department warning against Royal Holiday
There is a United States State Department warning against buying Mexican Timeshares. Please be advised, banks and credit card companies should not be assisting companies like Royal Holiday in these purchases.

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_970.html#real_estate

REAL ESTATE AND TIME-SHARES: U.S. citizens should be aware of the risks inherent in purchasing real estate in Mexico, and should exercise extreme caution before entering into any form of commitment to invest in property there. Investors should hire competent Mexican legal counsel when contemplating any real estate investment. Mexican laws and practices regarding real estate differ substantially from those in the United States. Foreigners who purchase property in Mexico may find that property disputes with Mexican citizens may not be treated evenhandedly by Mexican criminal justice authorities and in the courts. Time-share companies cannot be sued in U.S. courts unless they have an office or other business presence in the U.S. Consumers should contact a Mexican attorney, the Mexican consumer protection agency PROFECO, or other consumer information agency for information on companies that operate outside of the U.S. Ownership Restrictions: The Mexican Constitution prohibits direct ownership by foreigners of real estate within 100 kilometers (about 62 miles) of any border, and within 50 kilometers (about 31 miles) of any coastline. In order to permit foreign investment in these areas, the Mexican government has created a trust mechanism in which a bank has title to the property but a trust beneficiary enjoys the benefits of ownership. However, U.S. citizens are vulnerable to title challenges that may result in years of litigation and possible eviction. Although title insurance is available in the Baja Peninsula and in other parts of Mexico, it is virtually unknown and remains untested in most of the country. In addition, Mexican law recognizes squatters' rights, and homeowners can spend thousands of dollars in legal fees and years of frustration in trying to remove squatters who occupy their property.

Time-share Investments: U.S. citizens should exercise caution when considering time-share investments and be aware of the aggressive tactics used by some time-share sales representatives. Buyers should be fully informed and take sufficient time to consider their decisions before signing time-share contracts, ideally after consulting an independent attorney. Mexican law allows time-share purchasers five days to cancel the contract for unconditional and full reimbursement. U.S. citizens should never sign a contract that includes clauses penalizing the buyer who cancels within five days. The Department of State and the U.S. Mission in Mexico frequently receive complaints from U.S. citizens about extremely aggressive sales tactics, exaggerated claims of return on investment, lack of customer service and questionable business practices by time-share companies, resulting in substantial financial losses for time-share investors.

A formal complaint against any merchant should be filed with PROFECO, Mexico's federal consumer protection agency. PROFECO has the power to mediate disputes, investigate consumer complaints, order hearings, levy fines and sanctions for not appearing at hearings, and do price-check inspections of merchants. All complaints by U.S. citizens are handled by PROFECO's English-speaking office in Mexico City at 011-52-55-5211-1723 (phone), 011-52-55-5211-2052 (fax), or via email at [email protected]. For more information, please see the PROFECO "Attention to Foreigners” web page at Profeco (Procuraduría Federal del Consumidor).
May 29, 2007
List of all the thieves we dealt with at Royal Holiday
Beware of Royal Holiday! Royal Holiday will scam you out of your hard earned money! Here's a copy of the letter I sent to Profeco summarizing my experience with the crooks at Royal Holiday.

I am writing this letter to file a formal complaint against Royal Holiday a.k.a. TRAVEL EXPERIENCE, and to seek your help in reclaiming funds that were fraudulently charged to my account by this company currently based in the Hyatt Cancun Caribe Resort Hotel. My wife and I were accosted by one of their representatives as we exited customs and were lured with free tours and taxi fare into one of their vacation presentations. We met with them on Sunday May 6, 2007 and sat through over five hours of pushy sales tactics and incentives geared to lure us into a signing a contract. Their sales tactics are reprehensible if not downright illegal. They misrepresented the terms of the service that they claim to provide and used incentives and alcohol to coerce us into making a poor decision. We eventually agreed to sign the contract with the understanding that at any point later in our vacation we could simply call back or stop by and cancel with no ill effects. They also asked us to agree to a ‘pre-authorization’ of our American Express card, NOT a charge, for the down payment amount to lock in the incentives that they had promised. Our instructions were simply to determine how we would like to handle the real down payment and to contact them once we had made our decision. At no point did they inform us of the five-day Mexican right of cancellation nor did they indicate that a Notary Public was present during the signing of the contract. In fact, we have a copy of our contracting stating that "This agreement cannot be canceled by either party...". This is fraudulent according to Mexican Law. We left their office on Sunday with the understanding that nothing would be charged to us unless we called back to authorize it. Since neither my wife nor I speak Spanish and because we are novice travelers, we did not find an Internet connection until Wednesday May 9th, 2007. It was at this time that we realized that our American Express account had been fraudulently charged on two separate occasions for a total of 16904.07 US dollars. These charges were made on May 6th 2007. We immediately attempted to call the telephone number provided on the contract on 3 separate occasions on May 9th 2007 to cancel the contract and reverse the charges but no one answered. We also attempted to file a dispute for those charges with American Express but unfortunately the collect number on the Amex card did not work from the hotel phone. We kept getting a Spanish-speaking operator whom I could not understand. My mobile phone also did not work. We decided that we would head over to Hyatt hotel before we left on Saturday May 12th 2007 to resolve this issue in person since we had two remaining tours planned for Thursday and Friday. Our goal was not to delay but rather to try to make the best of the remainder of our vacation. My wife and I printed out a copy of our American Express bill on Thursday and attempted to contact them again via phone with no success. We finally went to the Hyatt hotel on Saturday May 12th to cancel the contract in person but none of the original three people we dealt with were there. We spoke to another manager who tried to appease us with an additional 15000 points but we turned him down and insisted that we wanted to cancel the contract. At this point he informed us that the 5-day cancellation period had expired and that there was nothing he could do. He then brought us to the on site director, Daniel Villa, who told us that he would explain the situation to the corporate office and they would contact us on Monday May 14th at my office in the US. They never did. We didn’t realize the extent of the fraud by this company until we returned home and were able to contact countless others via the Internet who have been similarly scammed by this company. I have included additional attempts to cancel the contract via email but I have received no replies. I am therefore hoping that you can help me resolve the fraudulent charges in the amount of 16904.07 US dollars.

All off these people are crooks! Please do not trust them and please don't fall for their scam! Also, please don't support the Hyatt Cancun Caribe resort. They know what's going on and do nothing to stop it!!

Here's a list of all the thieves we dealt with at Royal Holiday. Orlando??, Alex??, Hector Montalvo, Daniel Villa.

[email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]
May 28, 2007
Business of customer care
I work for Royal Holiday in customer care. When someone signs a contract they are obligated to pay the amounts for the time period. We have contracts for thirty years, and members pay dues for this time. Because of the nature of the contract the members are obligated to pay the resorts operating expenses, and so if there is a problem, the dues go up. The terms of the membership vary depending on how much is put down initially. Until the full amount is paid, for example, for the premier package of 60,000 points, it is around $30,000,00, a member does not qualify to book a vacation. Also, we are not obliged to book vacations at resorts where travel agents are still selling vacations, until we know that no other guests are booking the room. For example, if BookIt.com needs the rooms for their clients they get the rooms. That is why so often members are told no availability.

I get tired of all the Americans crying and wanting to cancel the memberships. You should have researched the product and company before spending that kind of money. A fool and their money are soon parted. But, this is not my problem. The law is on our side. Anyone that is so stupid to sign a contract in a foreign country after being promised things that are too good to be true deserved to be screwed. I have read pages on the internet about problems members think they have, but they brought this on to them self. When we do cancel contracts and refund money it is because the person has taken the time to find the places to file complaints, and have documented the attempts to have services provided and that we have not done so. Also, the Mexican law that states there is a five day cancellation period is purposely not on the contracts so that you did not cancel on time, then you can not cancel. It is simple. You don't know your rights, you should have waited, and researched. Now it is too late.
May 11, 2007
Please don't fall for the trap
In March 2007, I attended a Royal Holiday 90 minute presentation where I met with Art Martinez, the program director of the Cancun sales office set up in the Hyatt Cancun Caribe hotel. He gave us the option to sign up for a 30 year, 20,000 point per annum program for $20,000, but also gave us a 60 day window to cancel our 30 membership and keep the 5 year Unlimited package for the down payment I made of $5995. It has been over a month and I am still trying to get Art Martinez to resolve my issue. I have tape recorded conversations with him over the phone in which he confirms his promise to me that he would let me back out of the 30 year membership program if I canceled within 60 days.

Art Martinez even provided me with his email address and cell phone number, but he has never returned a phone call or an email. I have also tape recorded all my voicemails on his cell phone.

I have done exactly as he has told me. I sent him a cancellation letter at his request via Fedex. I have the Fedex tracking showing that he signed and received the letter. I have him on the phone confirming that he received the letter and was going to work with the Mexico City corporate office to make sure that everything would be corrected and that I would owe nothing additional and would be able to keep the Unlimited Package for 5 years for the down payment I made. He confirmed to me that "Carmen" was going to send the corporate headquarters instructions to correct my plan.

I spoke to Carmen in his office on May 10, 2007, who claims that what Art told me would never be allowed and she has never heard of such agreements being made. She didn't even know about my letter of cancellation, even though she is the one he said took care of everything.

I have also been in talks with my account rep at the corporate office, Migual Angel Juarez, who has been trying to help me, but says that Art Martinez has never contacted him.

Do not do business with these people. My next steps are to hand over all my recorded conversations to a lawyer. I have also written to:

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I encourage others to do so, so we can gain support for this cause. I have send them the link to this website that shows the many complaints that exist for Royal Holiday.

I figure that this would be a great segment, especially since I have so much evidence against them. They love to play taped phone conversations on that show.

I am fed up with the lies and deception. I have over 20 phone calls recorded between myself and Royal Holiday, so you can see how much work I have been putting into this. Please don't fall for the trap. I am not even trying to get out of anything, I am trying to downgrade to the program that was given to me as an option in the very beginning.
May 10, 2007
Never let me book a vacation
I bought a vacation package from Park Royal in Cozumel and have not been able to book a return trip. We purchased the vacation package in January 2007. In March we tried to book a return trip using our Founding Member option, and were told it was not available for our desired April trip. I thought that was a possibility because of spring break. So now I have tried to book for every week in June, or July, or August. I have tried to book a one week vacation for any week in those months, and they say no availability. If I go to Online travel agencies I can book for any of the weeks, it is only through my Royal Holiday vacation package that I can't get any one of those weeks. I can't get my customer service representative Olivia Hernandez to answer my e-mails asking about this. She only suggests we use our points to go somewhere else. I tried that too and were told that I would have to pay a booking fee. That was never mentioned to me.

I now see so many others like me who do not get anything for the money they have been given. I am not paying anymore, and will do everything I see possible to get my deposit and this year's dues back.

Do not EVER sign a contract if they say the deal is ONLY good TODAY. It is high pressure. Do not sign a contract without researching the company on the Internet. Put in the company's name and the words complaint, fraud, scam. If I had done that before I left the resort I would have known then what I know now. I would have canceled, even though the contract said I couldn't. I have learned Mexican law gives five days, even if the contract says no.

This is eating me alive. My blood pressure is up and I am so upset. I can not afford to throw my hard earned money away. No one can. Stay away from vacation package sales.
April 29, 2007
Royal Holiday vs Unsuspecting Vacationer
Royal Holiday vs. Unsuspecting Vacationer, like David and Goliath

If you look at Royal Holiday’s web site and printed materials they are a big company that has been around for decades. Their in business and the business is sales. They have studied the psychology of sales and practiced on customers that don’t have the experience and information to make informed judgments.

The vacationer is often in a foreign country, a beautiful resort setting like Cozumel Mexico Park Royal, when they are offered the opportunity to be able to return as often as they desire if they join today. The presentation begins by showing the vacationer inflated membership prices. Then the offers begin, the initial prices, etc. begin to be cut in half. One freebie after the other is put on the table. Even free airfare for your next trip back. Actually being there is part of the incitements. It is beautiful; you are having a great time. Wouldn’t it be great to have the ability to be able to afford this more often.

Of course, now you are home and you have tried to use the membership, the incentive coupons, etc. you see they could offer you anything, because they were not intending to give you any of it. One of the patterns you will notice is they ignore you. You call to cancel, they tell you to write, they never answer. They give you phone numbers that don’t have people in authority there to deal with you. They put you off. They rely on you taking so much time trying to work with them that it will be too late for you to get help. The more you read of the accounts of Royal Holiday members as you do research on the Internet you will understand.

First, the average membership for 30 years is around $20,000.00. Then you pay annual dues which are around $650.00. These dues can go up. They have a contract for you to pay this, and they go after you with collection agencies and put bad credit ratings on your reports. Then you can hardly if ever get a vacation you want, because they have people paying cash for the rooms you would use points for. Those people are potential victims of the fraud. If they give the rooms to members they won’t have the chance to make more money. Often by the time a member realizes this they feel hopeless.

You are not hopeless. Join groups on the Internet where people are sharing information. They have been successful. Use these accounts to demonstrate a pattern of misrepresentation and fraud with your credit card complaint. File a complaint with PROFECO. They take claims up to a year after the contract was signed. Like David, the victims who took action got the money back. For those who waited to research they have taken around a year. For those who discovered the scam early within the month. Just send as much as you can to your credit card company with your fraud claim.

You can do it, others have. Royal Holiday is not invincible.
April 26, 2007
Misrepresentations and lies!
My wife and I were scammed by Royal Holiday! We were encouraged to upgrade our membership by representations that have proven to be untrue. Our complaints involve Granthix Capital, Ltd.

We will be filing suit shortly. Our attorney has prepared the pleadings seeking a declaratory judgment against both RH and Granthix.

I invite you to share your comments. While I am willing to read about your specific fact circumstances, I am much more interested in what efforts you have made (successfully or unsuccessfully) to try to overcome your complaints.

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