The Tax Club
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Category: Business & Finances
Contact Information 6th Floor, New York (Empire St. Bldg), New York, United States
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The Tax Club Reviews
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David Duncan
February 1, 2009
Total Rip Off
I got involved with The Tax Club through PMI. Immediatly after paying PMI $9220 in Sept. 08 they turned my name over to The Tax Club. For 4 months they bombarded me with calls wanting more money for another service I had to have to be a business. They have mislead and pressured me into paying them around $14, 000 and I have gotten almost nothing in return. After 4 months I am still not incorporated as a business which was the first thing they were supposed to do. I cancelled one service and they kept most all of the money. I have spent many hours on emails and phone calls complaining and trying to get something done right. I am now filing a complaint with the New York Attorney Generals Office and I hope others who have bad dealings with The Tax Club will do the same. They need to be investigated and stopped from ripping off people.
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December 16, 2008
Rip Off - Scam
This seems to be a very common thread with all the postings, but I wanted to do my part to help you out. This is to avoid the money lost and headache that we had to go through. Please avoid this company! Here is our story:
They were not up front about all the costs. I paid $1500 and they said that it would cost me $30/mo and $37 filing fee at the start of each year and a tax filing for both me and my business partner. When we got it started, they dropped it on us that it costs $895 a year to renew. Plus only one personal tax return was given a year, not two.
When we asked to cancel we were told there is a %15 penalty for services rendered when there was no service done for us at all. Also, every single "tax consultant" that we spoke to was VERY impersonal and we wanted a "tax team" like we were promised.
When trying to get a hold of the person that sold me, he never answered nor did he return any phone calls. I had to threaten a lawsuit, just to get anybody that could fix our problem...Guess what, still not fixed.
Please ask about how much it costs to renew and about services included with the huge upfront cost. They misrepresented themselves to get quick money out of two honest individuals.
Go with a local tax advisor that you can trust. We are and a whole lot happier too.
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George B
December 10, 2008
refund refused
Stores Online (SOL), Professional Marketing International (PMI), The Tax Club Scam
Like many out there I fell into the trap set by this trio of high pressure selling, let's get the newbie companies.
OK, I admit it, I was gullible and I knew nothing about Internet Marketing when SOL came calling in my town (Australia) in March 07. I bought 6 websites (US$ 3535), quick sign here, where is your credit card, by the way you need this as well and this, blah blah blah; you got 3 business days to make up your mind.
I was never asked what I was going to sell or advised whether my product (niche) was suitable or had profit potential
I was never told the truth about what hidden traps (like the Tax Club) were waiting down the road or what is truly needed to trade online in the US (or so they say).
When I did not activate any of my sites due to unexpected work commitments, they had sales people call a few times to coax me into using their services for more money (I don't blame them for that).
But in October 2008 SOL passed my details on to PMI and after more high pressure phone calls I relented again (!) and signed up for 5 live training shows (including building my website and helping me advertise it) with some of their specialists (US$ 4645). I asked for the first show to be scheduled for Nov 26 as I was busy with other stuff till then. When the time came for LIVE training I could not access it because their toll-free number is not valid where I am. In the end we settled that I should do the pre-recorded version which they said was the same. Strangely enough the girl on live chat could neither find my account nor the 5 live calls I scheduled during their first call in October at first.
During this time, on Nov 6, I had already been approached by The Tax Club (TTC). I'm assuming my details were passed on by either SOL or PMI. The Tax Club turned out to be the worst as far as pressure selling and being secretive about cost is concerned. They told me that I could not run a drop-shipping Internet business in the USA without starting an LLC with business name, EIN number, bank accounts and credit card. I had given PMI $4645 which now seemed useless unless I agreed to join The Tax Club for US$ 3890. This included $1195 for the business name and EIN number (this can be done for free online) and looking after my tax.
On Nov 26, the same day my first PMI live session got messed up, I had my 2nd call from TTC and the motor-mouth sales person had the hide to ask me for another $8000+ for business graphics and getting my website all finished and launched real fast before Xmas (he must have known that I had already paid PMI for doing that). I declined. One week later he asked for $1700+ for setting up a bank account with credit card and never having to worry about another thing. I declined again.
By now I was so cheesed off, confused and disillusioned that I canceled my membership with PMI and TTC.
I never bothered to take my second training call from PMI.
The Tax Club's letter of engagement states that if cancellation occurs within 30 day of the initial transaction, they will keep a 15% processing fee and retail price of services rendered. I returned all their documentation unused to their NY address and I figure that, considering the whole mess, they owe me at least $1600, yet they have determined my account to be eligible for a refund (nice Hey!).
PMI have emailed me that I will be contacted by phone to discuss my cancellation. I've asked for a refund of $4000 since I only got to course 1 (with difficulty and not as promised) and all the "hard" work for them, like setting up the site and advertising it, never got done. So far, no call.
SOL is ignoring my long detailed email. All they are doing is telling me that selling my 6 sites is not recommended. I still have access to them.
PMI & TTC have stopped me accessing their sites.
I'm sure that there are many people out there who have benefitted from these 3 companies. Their sites are well set up, they have 24/7 support and all the trimmings but they are unscrupulous, prey on the gullible internet marketing beginner with false pictures of easy success stories and don't tell the real truth about all the cost involved. Outside the US it is almost impossible to talk to somebody in person. Their online chat and email communication is not what one needs when discussing problems like the ones detailed above.
My advice: STAY AWAY FROM THESE 3 COMPANIES UNLESS YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING!
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October 24, 2008
RIP OFF!!!
As with many others, we were promised many benefits. They told us of all of the things that was included in the membership. Well, you are immediately bombarded with phone calls for these services. Only to find out that each service is an additional $1, 000.00 or so. When trying to contact them, you are greeted by voice mail, only to never have your calls returned.
They make appointments for phone calls, and then they call you to reset, and some sort of emergency has come up. (Computer down, Rep got an important call etc. etc. )
This is a complete rip off. Scam artists at their best!!!
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September 1, 2008
Total rip off
They serve NO Purpose whatsoever other than taking your money, they are Professional Con-Artists. I knew someone who currently works there and bragged about his Manager named Bert who had ripped off a woman out of $3K by appealing to her spirituality. She was also recently in an accident and was on meds so she wasn’t in her right mind.
This person was so arrogant and condescending about pitching people I am confident karma will get him in the end.
In the meantime, I advise everyone to check the NY Better Biz. Bureau, get on the Internet and spread the word about this scam. They will NOT help you after you pay them their fees. I was personally told this by my now ex-friend!!
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July 2, 2008
Rip off
I should have known from the beginning that that this company wasn't legitimate. One of there representatives called me and told me they were calling on behalf of Legal Zoom. When I asked him what the status of my DBA was, he told me to check with Legal Zoom...? That was the first clue that something fishy was going on. Next, the sales person told me that tax wise, I shouldn't have picked a limited liability corporation. I told him that LLC stood for Limited Liability Company, and that for tax purposes I was being considered an S-Corporation. Again, he seemed confused. The next 30 minutes was a high pressured sales pitch where he insisted my company would fail if I did not purchase their glorious services. At the end I gave in, considering it would be easier to pay someone else to do all of this work early. After that sales call, I've received half a dozen more calls all with false promises. Promises like "you'll get all of your start up money back in taxes" or "we'll get you a business grant" or "we will help you get your website up and running" or "we'll do your taxes on time". They promise one thing and they do another. Seems like the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing; poor organization. Check the Better Business Bureau's website to see all the complaints they have. The Tax Club is a mess, stick with a local CPA. They can do it in 1/10th of what you end up paying to these thieves.
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May 4, 2008
Scam
The tax Club located on the 60th floor in the Empire State Building is a complete scam. If you go on legalzoom or fileinc websites and set up a corporation. At the very end you will find an option which asks if you want to set up a free tax consultation. If you select this, your information will be forwarded to the Tax Club where a guy named Bert Seither will call you. When you think this is for a tax consultation, it is not. Bert Seither will give you some basic idea about a corporate tax structure then will want to charge you $1000 dollars for the tax clubs services. That’s what happened to me. He tries to sell you something you don’t need. Stick to your CPA and Tell Bert at the tax club to shove it up you know where.
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April 24, 2008
Stay away from them
The worst business decision I ever made. From my experience, they are a frustrating, no service organization (I use "organization" with reservation).
After signing, I received calls to set appointments, supposedly with the tax club staff to review business tax issues. Not so, the calls were sales calls selling additional services; book keeping, deduction services, business plans, etc. And in the end you do all the work and they only file.
Their "customer service" number produced nothing but aggravation, no accountant, and nothing resembling an intelligent response to questions.
My advice, stay away from the tax Club, find a local accountant you can sit with, look in the eye and who knows taxes.
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