Have you been scammed by Thrive? Do you want help? Do you want to help others? Please click on my name above < Kona > and then "Send Message" and I will reply with more information.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP!

Cut and paste the below to put in your compaint to the FTC, BBB, FBI, Utah Division of Consumer Protection, Utah Attorney General, US Attorney General, etc. etc. Also go to
http://stop-telemarketers.midwestjournalpress.com
and buy something from the guy - he paved the way.

AND DON'T FALL FOR THIS AGAIN! (talking to myself here)

The company did not provide, in writing, a description of what is involved in the program. Following is copied from the “Agreement” :
A. TRADE SECRET PRODUCTS AND/OR SERVICES: In exchange for the consideration of $12, 295.00 (USD), THE USER shall receive the following custom designed trade secrets, products and/or services:
Unlimited reactive training
Ebay Training
Research Tool
Lister Tool
Lightwave Web Builder with shopping cart
SEO marketing package
Business toolkit 4.1
No further description was provided prior to signing, of these items.
The product and/or service is not as advertised. Training was advertised as "trade secrets" and “custom designed” but actually is common knowledge and readily available on the internet, often for free.
The company used unethical sales practices. The sales scripts say "you should make your money back in 60-90 days" and convince people to use Other People's Money, which is their credit card. Sales reps are trained to make people feel bad about themselves, hype them up about their dreams, and then tell them they have to qualify and be invited aboard. Truth is they'll sell anyone with a credit card.
Almost every technique known in the “Psychology of Persuasion” was used. The main one that led me to believe it was real was that “we normally charge more for this service, but we feel you are such a good candidate, that we will give you a lower price in return for your agreement to use your name and success story in future advertising.”
The identity of the actual company providing the product and/or service was not clear. Initial contact was from "Momentum Marketing" and the other company names, Thrive Learning Center and Success Training, intentionally obfuscated so as to make research on the company difficult or meaningless.
A Refund Policy is not presented on the www.thriveli.com or www.thrivelearninginstitute.com website.

I have also been a victim of Thrive Learning Institute. I have paid them a total down of $1, 600.00 and owe them a balance of $4, 372.93. I joined up with them in February 13, 2009 and was told that everything was included in the price. That I would have training with the coaches for up to 3 - 6 months one on one and would have direct contact for 2 years. Kim Waggoner was a smooth talker. He told me that I would have all my money paid and making money within 30 days if I put in 10 hours a week. Well if you have done this program you know it takes alot more than that and around the end of March of 2009 I was calling the coaches for over a week with no return phone calls and I was very upset that no one was returning my calls. Finally April 3, 2009 Eric called me back and said they would no longer be talking to me on the phone that I had to do everything through E Library on live chat. Which is not what I was told in the beginning. And again the on April 8, 2009 live chat with Andrew, but I felt like I was being rushed and I never seemed to get the answers I was looking for when I did talk to the coaches. I would call and each time there was a different coach and no two are the same so you are spinning your wheels if you know what I mean. As I did more research to do this business everything was money. Everything was going to cost more money. Which I was not told when signing up with this company. I also had a merchant company calling me to set up an account for $10.00 a month and I told her I didn't even have the website up and running yet and she said I needed to set the account up first and I flat told her no. Also, I was paying $39.95 for a website per month that was not even up, which is included in the amount that I have mentioned. So I am telling you, that Mr Waggoner didn't even mention this till the very last sentence of our phone conversation when talking to him. I have contacted them but they will not give me a refund. I told him if he didn't give me a refund that I would report them and he said I was just like all the rest of the idots on the internet that can't do anything about it. He said they will give me a couple months credit and work more closely with me now and that there is nothing I can do about it. He said when they contact him he will tell them that I wasn't willing to accept his offer. So What I would like to know is how these people get away with this and sleep at night? They are not doing an honest business. I would like more information on that class action law suit if anyone has it.

Thrive Learning Institute.

What I will tell you is that they can REALLY sell snow to the Eskimo's.

I unfortunately got involved with them in October, 2008, when my wife

received a phone call about 8:00 pm, by someone named J.P.

That is short for his name, J----n P---i, you have to fill in the blanks.

What his pitch was that they have 100% satisfied client's, and are

looking for testimonial's.

They GUARANTEE 100% SATISFIED CLIENT'S.

They offer you one on one training, personal coaches and you

WILL RECEIVE ALL YOUR INVESTMENT BACK WITHIN 90 DAY'S.

It sure sounded like the kind of deal I couldn't turn down.

Then came the price, $ 6, 250.00, the total cost of this amazing money

making opportunity, being put on my credit card.

After I told him that there was NO WAY I COULD AFFORD TO PAY

MY CREDIT CARD FOR THIS, he said I would have ALL MY MONEY BACK

BEFORE THE STATEMENT CAME IN.

My wife knowing that I was in such a deep depression thought this

was the LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL, convinced me to

go ahead and do it.

THAT WAS THE BEGINNING OF A NIGHTMARE, that I live each

day.

Set up a Ebay selling account, but product's from a dropshipper to

sell, and within a short time, maybe even DAY'S you will have most

if not all your money back.

I asked JP if I had to spend more money after I paid the $ 6, 250,

and he said the only money I had to pay was a hosting fee, of $ 39.95
per month, for a website they wanted me to setup to sell dropship product's.

I told him that was a lot of money for a hosting fee, and that I already deal

with a hosting company that was less expensive, can't I just use the

one I have.

He said we need you to use our host because it is easier for us to help

you setup your website, we do most of the work REMOTELY from

our office.

The help that I received and the tool's they supplied me with were no

better than what you can get online for free, and on Ebay.

The so called HELP was no help at all.

I would call and ask a question, and they would answer something that

made no sense. It was like they were answering someone else.

After a few time's that turned into them saying you need to keep at it,

you need to list item's over and over untill they sell.

They said, JP, that IT TAKES TIME TO MAKE MONEY, YOU JUST HAVE

TO KEEP AT IT.

Well the dropshipper's prices were HIGHER than what I could get them for

on Ebay, the place they insist I sell.

How can I sell something for LESS THEN I PAY ?

After week after week, hour after hour, and email after email, and phone

call after phone call, getting RIDICULOUS ANSWER'S, I couldn't handle

it anymore.

I emailed them and said I wanted my money back.

They refused. I was sent an email from S--N, a so called manager.

His email also made NO SENSE.

Contact me by phone so we can help you.

Call so he could talk me into spending more money I dont have.

I had my wife contact them, and they said if I wouldnt LET THEM

HELP ME, THEY COULDNT DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.

She asked what she could do, and AGAIN THE DOUBLE TALK WENT

ON.

Again telling her that it takes time to make money, just keep listing

item's over and over, and get your website built.

If I cant make a sale with instant customers, now, how long do you think

it would take to sell products from a website.

They wanted their hosting fee every month, and who knows what else they

would get out of me before I had another heart attack.

THE NAME THRIVE FITS THEM TO THE TEE !

THEY THRIVE ON ANYONE THEY CAN.

My Ebay listing fee's were over $ 150.00, and going up with no sales

and all they keep saying is keep at it, and you need to get your website

setup so you can sell from it.

I started to setup the website, they had a MERCHANT CREDIT CARD
SERVICE CALL ME.

You need to do this so you can accept credit cards on your website.

I gave the info the girl wanted, and said what if I didn't go through with

this, can I cancel?

She said yes, just DON'T ACTIVATE the account and cancel it, you have

45 days before you get billed.

I said get billed for what?

She said there is a minimum charge of $ 25.00 a month if you have

no sales from your website.

Well, I canceled within 3 weeks, and what a surprise I got.

I sent 3 email's telling them to cancel my account. And when I

spoke to her on the phone I said that I would not be setting up

the website because of a DISPUTE with Thrive.

She said she NEVER HEARD OF THRIVE but agreed to cancel.

Come to find out they involved 2 other companies, and I dont know

why. One was American Express.

When I received a welcome package from American Express, I didnt know what it

was for, so I called.

The guy I talked to said this was for my MERCHANT ACCOUNT.

I told him I did not have a merchant account or a business, that I did

start to setup an online business but didnt continue because of a

disput with THRIVE.

Again, this guy from American Express said he didnt know who that was.

He canceled the account on the spot.

The other is Imax. Which I have no idea who they are or what they

do except charge money.

I really dont know which of these two charged me, it wasnt American Express.

I was getting $ 45.00 taken RIGHT OUT OF MY BANK, without ever

knowing.

This whole deal with Thrive has been a nightmare.

My feeling for them cannot being told here.

I figured out EXACTLY HOW THEY WORK.

WHAT THEY DO IS GIVE YOU THE WORST COACHING YOU

CAN GET. THEY GIVE YOU ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS

THAT MAKE NO SENSE BECAUSE THEY WANT YOU TO GET

FRUSTRATED AND THEN THEY SAY YOU BROKE THE CONTRACT

They are the worst people that live. their purpose is NEVER to help

anyone make money but THEM.

They don't know how to make HONEST MONEY.

The biggest SCAM is to tell you what you want to hear UNTIL

THEY GET YOUR MONEY.

Then they never refuse to help you and will talk to you all day long,

never giving you ANY INFORMATION THAT WILL REALLY HELP.

And thats their SCAM.

Helping WITHOUT HELPING YOU.

The more they HELP you, the more frustrated you become until

you cant take it anymore.

You wind up not dealing with them anymore, your choice, and

they KEEP ALL YOUR MONEY FOR DOING NOTHING THAT

WAS PROMISED.

WHAT A SCAM.

STAY AWAY FROM THRIVE LEARNING INSTITUTION

YOU DONT WANT TO LEARN ANYTHING FROM THEM !

I was scammed by a company using 2 names-Thrive Learning Institute and Infusion Media. They are the same company. They will contact you by e-mail offering to sell you a Google kit to start an online business. They will use your credit card numbers to debit your account for S&H as well as other unheard of charges. Then they will call for your other credit card numbers so they can take money from all of your credit card companies and start a home computer business. Brandon Clark, who seems to be the leader's name in this business will seem to be a very nice guy until you tell him of your intent to retrieve your stolen funds. Then he will call you at 10:15 at night and wake you from a sound sleep and discredit your claims towards retribution of your funds. Please beware of this company. Guard yourself from similar torture.