Tuition Painters

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gerf January 14, 2010
deceptive, fraudulent
I worked as a District Supervisor in 2009. If you have been selected to work for them in 2010 it is not to early to stop. I made the mistake of reading these complaints, asking my "regional supervisor" about these complaints. I was fed lies that every single one of these people was basically either full of it, or they were not hard workers and couldn't do the job. I, sadly, was gullible enough to buy these lies. After attending the first training weekend, which I spent about 200 dollars on, I started to realize something wasn't right. I had a good feeling that all these complaints were the same situations I was going to be in, but instead of stopping I was hooked feeling like I already had to much time and effort into it. Believe me, stopping now will save you a lot of money and heartache, plus the embarresment of being taken advantage of to this degree. I had a crew of three hard workers, who I tried to take good care of and treat fairly, but it is nearly impossible to do that when all of their checks and my checks bounced. After booking and completeling 18, 000 dollars in contract (I didn't finish the summer because I wasn't receiving good checks nor were my painters) I received a grand total of 1, 200 dollars. That is a little of 6%. I had right around 2, 000 dollars in checks which bounced and I was fed reasons all summer on why this was happening. It is January now and I have been working with the police to get my money out of Paul Flick. I was just informed they were closing the case. I was not offered a reason. Issuing bad checks is unlawful at a criminal level. Yet, somehow my criminal case against him got no where. I worked 10-16 hour days all summer long including weekends. There is nothing that tuition painters gives you that you can't do for yourself. I never once actually used my regional supervisor. He wasn' t helpful to me at all. All he did was hound me about sending them the checks that I would never see again. One of my painters won a case and received all the money he had worked for all summer. My two other painters at this point are still missing around a thousand dollars. Looking back on my summer I learned a lot, but nothing that I thought I would learn. I've learned our criminal justice system and civil court system is worthless. A man who blatently takes advantage of college kid and has absolutley no remorse his able to get away with this year after year. Help put him out of business and keep him from doing this to anyone else. You can help by stopping now if you are selected to be a DS. I was in your possition this time last year and I was blinded by the lies they fed me. The best decision you could make would be to stop. Why else would there be so many complaints about him and this company? You will be no exception he will do the same things to you he does to everyone else. There is another kid from my college who went to training with me and the same thing happened to him. You have the option now to stop, but everything you do for them will make it harder and harder to stop and you will wind up like I did this summer. Please listen to this and do not believe their lies. I just don't want anyone to have to go through and feel the way I feel about this.
July 1, 2008
Non-negotiable checks etc.
I've had an overwhelming response from all of the 08 Ds's as well as some from 07. I've been told that I'm going to be sued by the company if I continue to send out surveys and complaints such as these. The reason I was doing this was because Friday was the last straw for me. Paul has refused to pay me, my sub-contractor who is diabetic and needs insulin, has written me and/ or my sub contractors three bad checks, has ruined my reputation with all of my customers and painters, lied to me and everyone else about the S.W accounts and about training my inadequate painters and has refused to give me a copy of my contract and financial statements after several requests.

It appears that many of us are in the same boat. I deal with Paul on a frequent basis seeing that I live 5 minutes from the corporate office. I've produced $16000 for the company in the one month I was producing. I never told Paul I was going to quit but hes already terminated my access to the TP database and sent me a letter saying he intended to sue if I continue reaching out to others. I have no doubt in my mind that Paul is planning on screwing over a lot of DS's at the end of the summer just like he did last year. He has close to 40 Better Business Bureau complaints against him and many many lawsuits including an astronomical debts. I've also been informed by my attorney that Paul's Contractors license for the state of VA has expired and therefore I've been at great legal risk. IF YOU ARE A CURRENT DS THEN YOU BETTER CHECK FOR YOUR STATES LICENSING BECAUSE PAUL MAY NOT HAVE IT.

I've told Paul that he just needs to pay my sub-contractor the FULL amount owed and I will go away but Paul insists on doing things his way and possibly even taking legal action against ME! so I'm forced to protect myself. After talking to my lawyer a class action lawsuit would be VERY EASY to put together and we would be able to put that together by September. My advice to any current DS's is to shut down production and ban together with everyone. He can screw over one of us at a time but he can't screw us all over together. YOU CAN CONTACT ME IF YOU'RE A FORMER 2007 OR A FORMER 2008 DS. IF YOUR CURRENTLY STILL WORKING WITH TUITION PAINTERS, PLEASE DON'T EMAIL ME OR CALL ME. I CAN'T HELP YOU.

Anyone thinking about becoming a future DS? Please do yourself and your family a favor and STAY AWAY FROM THIS COMPANY!

Thanks for reading,
Garrett.
June 30, 2008
Fleecing college students
PLEASE EMAIL ME IF YOU HAVE WORKED WITH TUITION PAINTERS IN 2007 OR 2008 AND EITHER QUIT OR WERE TERMINATED. THIS COMPANY IS A SCAM. DON'T FALL FOR BEING A DS AND IF YOU ALREADY ARE - DON'T FALL FOR COMING BACK NEXT YEAR AS AN RS. YOU MIGHT BE PULLED INTO ALL THIS MESS. THE SITUATION IS GOING TO EXPLODE. THERE ARE MANY JUDGMENTS AGAINST THIS COMPANY INCLUDING SOME FROM DEBTORS, AND DSs NOT PAID THEIR ACCOUNT AT THE END OF THE SEASON.

They present a polished program where you gain experience running your own business. You definitely get experience - but trust me - it isn't the kind you want. Paul does not provide you a copy of your contract which has many questionable practices that will be looked at by the authorities. Have you wondered why he didn't give ANY of the DSs a copy. We have not received a written financial statement as promised.

Our painters were not trained and our jobs were underbid using their system. The customers were not happy with the substandard work and many times didn't pay or didn't pay in full. The painters were inefficient and most times two times over labor hours because of repaints and redos so there efficiently provided them with a paycheck that was about 70% LESS than what they were told at the beginning of the season. Yet tuition painters still got 35% off the top - leaving very little profit or none at all.

Our Sherwin Williams line of credit accounts were never set up as promised so we are all in deep debt because we had to pay for materials from our own pockets when Pauls credit cards decline and you can't get a hold of him by phone.

You better check to see if TP has a valid business license in your state because we were told in training that the company is licensed and insured. However, Tuition Painters is not licensed to do business in VA. Tuition Painters license #270504454 expired on April 30, 2008 leaving the DSs operating in VA at risk.

Understand that Ian the VP of the company is also liable as he was fully informed of all of these issues.

I could go on and on, but the legal system will take care of these issues as soon as all the facts are out.
March 2, 2008
Unpaid wages!
Tution Painters had a judgment ruled against them in the amount of $8,046 in unpaid wages to a former employee on February 11, 2008 in the Fairfax County General District Court. Case No. GV07029250-00. No payment has been remitted. Paul Flick, President of Tuition Painters, has indicated he has chosen to disobey the court’s order and not pay - seemingly showing no remorse for failing to pay wages to an employee and clearly no regard for the rule of law.
March 1, 2008
Unpaid wages!
Tution Painters had a judgment ruled against them in the amount of $8,046 in unpaid wages to a former employee on February 11, 2008 in the Fairfax County General District Court. Case No. GV07029250-00. No payment has been remitted. Paul Flick, President of Tuition Painters, has indicated he has chosen to disobey the court’s order and not pay - seemingly showing no remorse for failing to pay wages to an employee and clearly no regard for the rule of law. Just a little FYI...
January 17, 2007
The best effort out of unskilled, untrained, well-meaning kids!
Before You Call Tuition Painters

For those of you either anticipating using Tuition Painters or joining Tuition Painters as employees, please read the following article before making your decision.

You need to make an informed decision.

Tuition Painters, Inc. (www.TuitionPainters.com) is a legitimate business founded in North Carolina with their current headquarters in Alexandria, Virginia. Their name sums up their business plan nicely, to hire college age kids to operate their own painting contractor business. To that end, they invest resources recruiting, interviewing and training their managers about the business and providing infrastructure such as payroll services, marketing material, etc. For this opportunity, the company collects 35 to 40% of the gross receipts.

A quick visit to their website will give you an overview of their mission. Their website is heavily weighted to the business opportunity afforded the managers. Once you get past the business and management information you will find it difficult to address the performance requirements and compensation of the actual workers (the “bees” for this article).

We have had practical experience with two of our bees working for Tuition Painters; Amanda, our 19 year old VPI student and Jimmy our 17 year old soon-to-be VPI student.

Our experience has been less than satisfactory.

Our bees did the work they were asked to do to the best of their ability. They never received any training from Tuition Painters, never missed a scheduled day of work, never refused to do the work and never received a reprimand for their quantity or quality of work. They have also never been paid the $10/hr. they were promised when hired nor have all of their hours been acknowledged by the company.

According to Paul, one of the founders of Tuition Painters, there are numerous explanations for the discrepancies.

Most of the explanations fall back on a piece-work agreement the bees are required to sign before becoming employees. The bottom line is that if anything goes wrong with a job, it is the bees that suffer.

If the job is underbid, the bees pay is unilaterally cut to the minimum wage. Paul Flick says that the crews are told of the number of hours that a job is expected to be completed, however, the bees aren’t allowed to refuse jobs or they risk being fired. The bees don’t have the experience to determine whether the estimate is realistic. The bees don’t have the training to handle many of the situations that arise. Bee managers would find it impossible to function as managers if the bees either questioned their assignments, the make up of the work crews, or the estimates on every job. Bees simply work.

If the job isn’t completed by the work crew (e.g. the allotted hours are exhausted before the work is complete and the crew stops work, the crew is reassigned to other jobs prior to completion, quitting) there may be no compensation at all. If the job isn’t completed to the satisfaction of the client or collection is an issue, there may be no compensation.

The details of our direct experience with Tuition Painters are very simple.

Jimmy worked for Tuition Painters for 35 hours. All of his jobs were completed under budget and to the satisfaction of the clients to the best of our knowledge. His pay was unilaterally cut from $10/hr. to $5.15/hr. for his acknowledged hours (15.5 hours). Although the division manager acknowledged this was a mistake in August, 2006 and that he would correct it, Jimmy has yet to receive his full compensation as of the end of November. The same manager was contacted recently about the situation. His response was to wonder why he was being called about issues “back last summer”.

Amanda worked for Tuition Painters for 80.5 hours. Her situation was slightly more complicated. Misestimated jobs, safety problems (such as working around power lines without training), and quality issues (working with eggshell paint without training) plagued her experience. All of these issues were brought to the attention of the same division manager with no response. This led to wasted hours, unhappy clients, and of course the unilateral pay cut.

After the bees figured out that they were wasting their time, working themselves to death for minimum wage, they made every effort to complete their assignments and terminate the relationship with Tuition Painters without too many loose ends. About the same time, their direct manager was prohibited access to the payroll database so their final hours could not be recorded which accounts for the discrepancy in “acknowledged hours”.

An unscrupulous company could easily build a nice painting business by promising the bees $10/hr. and effectively paying minimum wage rather than manage the business properly.

When you are making the decision to hire Tuition Painters, know that you are usually getting the best effort out of unskilled, untrained, well-meaning kids. When you are thinking of trying painting for the summer (becoming a “bee” for Tuition Painters) be aware that your pay is tied to circumstances beyond your control.

Amanda and Jimmy have taken a philosophical view of their experience with Tuition Painters, chalking it up to “life lessons not to be repeated”. Although they have moved on, I feel that it is blatantly unfair to take advantage of the naive. The general population needs to be warned of this type of hiring practice and make an informed decision. Unfortunately, there aren’t too many places publishing this type of information. I have filed a complaint with the Better Business Bureau and have sent a letter to the Virginia State Corporation Commission. In the meantime, feel free to contact me with your own “Tuition Painter” story by email at [email protected], [email protected], or call me (Jim Mouser, the Dad) directly at 540-882-4935. A web site is under construction which may prove effective in getting the word out.

Paul of Tuition Painters was sent the above article in November 2006 and invited to comment. His final correspondence with me was “They have been paid what they were owed”. Update: I have a letter from their attorneys stating they "intend to sue" if the above article is published, however, they have not stated the basis for their suit. The above article is a factual account of our experience with Tuition Painters.

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