Victoria's Secret
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Category: Lifestyle
Contact Information Carosel Center , Syracuse, New York, United States
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Victoria's Secret Reviews
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MareBear615
August 22, 2010
Say Bye-Bye XL panties and LARGE Bras..
I sent this to corporate- I am not expecting to hear anything but it was nice to get it off my chest :D
I am extremely disappointed in the Victoria's Secret company. I am 28 years old and have been shopping there for about 9 years now. I buy lotions, perfumes, body sprays, bras, panties, etc. All of this has come to a stop and I will not ever step foot in the store again.
About one month ago, I was going on my honeymoon and was trying to shop for a strapless bra - I went to VS and asked for help in purchasing it in a 38DD. There weren't any in the store. I asked for a 40DD and there weren't any in the store. I ended up buying a 38D which was too small, but I was hoping to exchange it at another store nearby. I called six stores within a 50 mile radius. None of them had the bra. The last store I called, I talked with the manager and she told me that they are no longer selling 38DDs (in many of the bras) in the stores and I would have to go online to do that. I was leaving in 3 days for my honeymoon and did not have enough time.
Three days ago, I got a "free panty" coupon in the mail and went to the store to get it as well as purchase some of the 5 for $25 panties. I searched high and low for the X-Large size, but there weren't any. Oh wait, there was one white cotton brief left...not flattering or sexy and not for someone who is 28 years old and a newlywed.
I asked the very friendly woman at the counter about the X-Large panties and she told me they were no longer carrying any XL in the store (except for styles like the hi-cut and brief). I then asked her about the larger sizes in the bras. She told me the same thing the other woman did except that they are no longer selling 40s in any of the bras. She apologized and told me she too wears the XL panty and now she can't even purchase the product from the store she works at.
I asked about purchasing things online and then having them shipped to the store. She told me that you can't even return items to the store- that VS.com and VS are two separate entities. Wow- mad doesn't even begin to describe how I feel.
It's not fair that X-Small is being kept, but X-Large is gone. What message are you sending to people? "You were good enough to shop here, but we changed our minds and you are too fat now?" I am specifically appalled in the amount of pre-teens and teens that are able to shop in your store. Yet, a WOMAN that wears a 12 or 14 cannot buy your panties or someone that has a larger bust cannot purchase a bra from your store.
This is ridiculous - I am telling everyone I know. Not only are you making it inconvenient for women who have shopped there for years, but you are also making them feel bad about themselves. I am not large enough to shop at the Plus Size stores and now I am too fat to shop at VS.
I know I am not the only woman to feel this way and you are wrong for getting rid of these products. YOU SUCK VS!!!
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Elora192
August 8, 2010
Shipping
I just had the worst experience in my life.
I am a very good customer of Victoria's secret, the famous underwear and clothing company. I always purchase at least twice a year, even if I do not reside in the US (I live in Australia) I always pay a ridiculous price for shipping... Anyway, I make my purchase a few weeks back in sales! I was so happy I bought for more than 500 dollars, yeah I loved VS... I usually get my parcel about a week after they charge me but this time I keep waiting even if they did not wait two days to charge me ($520 + $20 banking fees)... After three weeks (time expected for deliveries on their website), I decide to ask them what is going on. They reply with a automatic response, that I should wait 5 more days. I wait then I reply that im still waiting. They ask me for one more week. I was really upset, i had been charged a month ago... Still after a month and a week I ask them what is going on, because I paid $70 just for the shipping! scandalous! They reply that BWW or whatever their carrier is, do not provide a tracking number!!! For the price I pay?? Even the smallest local shop in china would charge me $10 for that. They just reply with one of their beloved automatic responses: would you like a refund or would you like a replacement? WHAT? On a friend's advice, I replied that it was not my problem, that we made a legal agreement when I purchased (I lost my time, energy, and money because for a month and a half I could have done with this cash flow) and that I wanted my items because they had charged me!! I was waiting for them to fulfil their promise and it wasnt a coincidence I had purchased on sale!! I could not get what i want again... The last email they sent me what something like... We are processing your refund please allow a couple of days to see it... I cant believe it
First I had the WORST experience of my life.
Second, I had never been treated so poorly with automatic messages and people ignoring totally my request and the fact that I was saying clearly: I DO NOT want a refund.
Third and i think the worst of all...
I had actually lost money in this terrible situation: The fee my bank charged me to transfer them the money... GONE, no one is going to refund me that, it not much $20, but it just means something to me, as I was disappointed on every level added to the fact that I no underwear, I also had lost money.
I HATE VICTORIA SECRET NOW>
I USED TO BE A VERY GOOD CUSTOMER>
THEY DO CUTE BRAS, BUT REALLY, THEY SHOULD REALISE THAT WE, WE ARE WHAT MAKE THEM.
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cspiker85
July 2, 2010
return
I had my first experience with Victoria's secret two days ago. I have never purchased any bras from your company before and I was excited to finally have a 'great' bra. After picking out two bra's (that were the same brand, size, but different color) I immediately went home and put my brand new VS bra on. It fit like a dream, aside from the loose straps I had my husband tighten for me. As he was tightening them he told me to remove the bra because one strap was being held my a thin piece of fabric. Disappointed, I removed the bra. We examined it and found a very weird long piece of hair inside the cup of the bra... it was far too long to be mine, this grossed me out, completely. I simply said I would take the bra back and exchange it for the exact same one. When I arrived at the VS at the st.claire mall in fairview heights, I told the cashier the problem. She said that is weird... and called over the manager, I presume. This said manager asked me all sorts of questions, explaining my SIZE was probably the reason the bra's strap broke. She said this in front of about 5 people behind me, and my husband. She told me that I should get measured. I said I was fine, knowing that the bra fit perfectly and it was very comfortable in my head. She then said 'well, if you get another bra and the same thing happens you wont be able to return this one. as you can see it was stretched out.' How embarressing is that? I never felt so humiliated and belittled in all my life. My husband knowing I was probably mortified asked if she could explain the odd, very long hair in the bras cup. She asked us like we were idiots if we noticed the hair when we got the bra... Obviously not, since I was more concerned with the size of the bra. I absolutely thought what she did and how she treated this situation was horrible. She had no right to make any comments about my size. I got my new bra and I wore it all day and night to test her theory. The fabric holding the strap didn't stretch one bit, and I honestly wanted to go to that store to show her. I can assure you that my first and last experience with your company was a poor one. You should teach your associates to not act like they are above the customers. I felt like Julia roberts in pretty woman. I know I will never recommend your store to any of my plus-size friends, for they may too get belittled for being bigger.
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verydisappointed1
May 10, 2010
CROOKS! RETURN RIP-OFF
NEVER AGAIN WILL I SHOP VS!! My letter to customer service:
Dear customer service,
This letter is to inform you of my complete dissatisfaction of my catalog order with Victoria's Secret, the rude phone call with Jasmine from the Bank service that handles Victoria's Secret credit card services on 5/10/10 (which I understand is not Victoria's Secret), however they do business for you, and last but no least the amount I have due from keeping ZERO items, and how I have to calculate this on my own.
1.) I have shredded my Victoria's Secret credit card, and will ban all Victoria's Secret stores and merchandise. I will not be treated as I have been when I spend my money! I will inform all friends and relatives of my horrible experience so they can avoid this entirely.
2.) I recently purchase multiple items (Nearly $500 purchase) and realized once they arrived squished, wrinkled and not as pictured, I returned everything, and was unbelievably disappointed with the quality of fabric, cut, and overall appearance of merchandise received. Overstock.com sends their clothing in a box, on hangers, and it is a pleasure to shop online thru them and as I've found other companies who put more care into their shipping.
3.) Your return policy is ludicrous! I understand the $5.99 return fee, but I owe a total of $51.46 for returning everything. For more information on my account see these two order numbers:
XXXXXXXXXXX $296.86, return order number XXXXXXXXXXX $268.94 amount returned
XXXXXXXXXXX $133.89, return order number XXXXXXXXXXX $110.35 amount returned
Other companies such as Overstock.com do NOT rip their customers off. They have amazing return rates, and EVERYTHING ships for $2.95. NEVER again will I ever be treated the way Victoria's Secret treats their customers! SHAME on Victoria's Secret!!!
4.)I called the number on the back of my Victoria's Secret credit card, and Jasmine was incredibly rude! Her tone is with entitlement, rudeness, and no patience for a customer. She asked me to verify my phone number, and when I gave her my home and cell phone number she had no record of either. I have no other numbers to give her and she snapped at me for a phone number. WHO the heck is Jasmine???!!! And why is she employed? She has no personal/people skills and should learn to communicate with others before barking at a customer that only wants to verify the complete balance due. She offered to transfer me after I gave her my phone number once again. She was rude when telling me my balance due of $430.75 is late after 5/20/10, I have 10 days to pay it! I am NOT late and she is treating me like I am late on my payment! NEVER AGAIN. Victoria's Secret and it's affiliates have lost my business forever.
When I asked for Jasmine's name and if she had a badge number, I told her to transfer me as she said she would, she rudely replied she wouldn't help me with that now since I have so much time on my hands she would give me a phone number to call. I hung up once I heard that, I don't deserve to be spoken to like that. Ever.
5.)I calculated from the amounts returned ON MY OWN, because no one had that information on their system. However I received emails from VS with confirmation these amounts were returned.
In conclusion, I am sending the FULL amount due of $51.46 for which I have NOTHING material in my hands for. I've shredded my VS credit card, and will NEVER shop VS, or accept a gift from VS again.
Unbelievable. CROOKS!
And yes, I have so much time on my hands to let your company know it's non-acceptable practices.
Jennifer Howard
NO longer a VS shopper
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Maison
April 5, 2010
Bad customer service
In November I purchased two nightgowns at your store in Eugene, Oregon for $40 with my Victorias Secret credit card. The clerk had to call to get my account number so that I could charge the items because I didnt have my credit card with me.
When I hadnt received the bill the next month, I called customer service to find out why. The customer service representative wasnt much help. She stated that my bill came via email. Since I hadnt received it via email or any other way, I asked her for my account number so that I could pay it on the Victorias Secret website. She stated that she couldnt give me the number over the phone but I could make a payment on the phone for an additional fee of $10. I didnt want to pay the additional fee, especially because the balance of the account was only $40. Unhappy with the outcome of this conversation, I asked her to have her supervisor contact me. All I needed was an account number or a bill with the account number on it so that I could make my payment. The supervisor never called me.
My life is fairly busy. Im a full-time student, I work part-time, and Im a mother of three teens. I forgot about my bill. Last Saturday (January 30), their collections department contacted me by phone to let me know my account was past due. I tried to explain to her what had happened and that I needed my account number to rectify the situation. The only assistance she had to offer me was to charge me additional fees so that I could pay the payment online. I asked to speak with her supervisor in an effort to get this problem resolved but that didnt do me any good. I tried to explain the situation to the supervisor and she told me she wasnt going to debate who I spoke with or anything else with me. I asked to speak with her manager and she told me she could not guarantee he would return my call. My response to that was not good. I was livid at this point. You cant guarantee your manager will return a customers call? Are you kidding? She hung up on me.
Because I never received a bill and my account number wasnt available to me over the phone, I think Victorias Secret could have made some kind of effort to help me with this situation without charging me more money. Instead, I paid your company $82 for a $40 purchase.
My credit history proves that I am a responsible debtor. Before this incident my FICO score was 761. This is because I take my credit score very seriously. Until this, I hadnt had a late payment in over 10 years.
When I asked VS to remove the late notice (in writing)from my credit report, they DECLINED.
I hope the rest of you have better luck than I did.
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jjjejs
April 4, 2010
Customer Service/Credit Card
February 3, 2010
In November (2009), I purchased two nightgowns at your store in Eugene, Oregon for $40 with my Victoria’s Secret credit card. The clerk had to call to get my account number so that I could charge the items because I didn’t have my credit card with me.
When I hadn’t received the bill the next month, I called customer service to find out why. The customer service representative wasn’t much help. She stated that my bill came via email. Since I hadn’t received it via email or any other way, I asked her for my account number so that I could pay it on the Victoria’s Secret website. She stated that she couldn’t give me the number over the phone but I could make a payment on the phone for an additional fee of $10. I didn’t want to pay the additional fee, especially because the balance of the account was only $40. Unhappy with the outcome of this conversation, I asked her to have her supervisor contact me. All I needed was an account number or a bill with the account number on it so that I could make my payment. The supervisor never called me.
My life is fairly busy. I’m a full-time student, I work part-time, and I’m a mother of three teens. I forgot about my bill. Last Saturday (January 30), their collections department contacted me by phone to let me know my account was past due. I tried to explain to her what had happened and that I needed my account number to rectify the situation. The only assistance she had to offer me was to charge me additional fees so that I could pay the payment online. I asked to speak with her supervisor in an effort to get this problem resolved but that didn’t do me any good. I tried to explain the situation to the supervisor and she told me she wasn’t going to debate who I spoke with or anything else with me. I asked to speak with her manager and she told me she could not guarantee he would return my call. My response to that was not good. I was livid at this point. You can’t guarantee your manager will return a customer’s call? Are you kidding? She hung up on me.
Because I never received a bill and my account number wasn’t available to me over the phone, I think Victoria’s Secret could have made some kind of effort to help me with this situation without charging me more money (maybe they could have sent me another bill when I called the first time to tell them I hadn’t received one). Instead, I paid their company $82 for a $40 purchase.
My credit history proves that I am a responsible debtor. Before this incident my FICO score was 761. This is because I take my credit score very seriously. Until this, I hadn’t had a late payment in over 10 years.
When I wrote to request they remove the 30 day late mark from my credit report, they DECLINED stating it wasn’t their fault.
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The Imperial Monarch
January 27, 2010
Victor the
Being a faithful consumer of Victoria's Secret, I felt it was a great place to work over the Christmas Holidays of 09 at the Houston Galleria. To be perfectly honest, this was probably the best place I've ever worked because the employees not only collaborated as co-workers but as close friends. It was a absolute pleasure being selected among such a professional team.
Unfortunately, at the Houston Galleria, there seems to be a pretty big SECRET with the visual supervisor by the name of Victor. I inquired about him once due to his unique appearance and every single employee responds by saying, "Stay away from that guy."
I'll explain why after I provide you a brief description of what this character looks like. First of all, the dress code is all black by the way for both male and female employees. If your disgusted easily, you might want to discontinue reading.
This skinny male around 40 years of age with a horrendous attitude shouldn't be too hard to miss. He is about 5'4 and fashions black nail polish, earrings, eyeshadow, bad acne scars and dyes his spiky hair metallic blue. To make matters worse, Sonic the Hedgehog always comes to work wearing a white T-shirt, dirty blue jeans and flip flop sandals.
When I first laid eyes upon this guy after store hours, I thought some cross-dressing crackhead got himself locked in because we're already closed. Upon discovering that he was the "visual" supervisor, I naturally concluded he was either attending a costume party later or he simply got jumped by a group of drunken clowns who apparently whooped him with their make-up kits.
Let's make this long story short. On Christmas Eve around 11:25pm,
I was working on a table display in the lace area near the front entrance and made a minor error in judgment assuming each article of clothing was already properly sized from largest to smallest. The entire display before I arrived didn't appear very messy so I naturally concluded that the employee working on it earlier had already sized them. I also fanned the panties out because I saw other nearby displays were completed under similar standards.
Victor later paused at the table and demanded who was responsible. I approached him to answer and asked, "Is everything all right?"
He replies, "These panties aren't supposed to be fanned out. Were you properly trained at all?" As he was digging through them to further inspect the quality of my work, he raised his voice with an attitude and said, "These aren't even sized properly! You know what?! I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN BE HERE EVERY SINGLE NIGHT FOR THE PAST MONTH AND NOT GET THIS RIGHT!"
I knew had I not distant myself from his tirade, I was going to retaliate and things would've got ugly. Trying to excuse myself, I said, "I'll come back to this later and take care of it. Don't worry about it."
He then barks back and says, "NO, I want you to stand right THERE and watch me do it. Make sure you get this right."
At that point, something erupted inside of me and I almost allowed my fist to connect with his face. The ONLY thing that held me back was the simple thought of all the friendly staff that granted me this generous opportunity to work over the Christmas Holidays. Their love, support, understanding and professionalism prevented me from going to jail that night. The respect I had for my employers was too much to jeopardize. I couldn't betray their trust over some cartoon character with an attitude.
Had it been Sveta, Michelle, Jessica or any other supervisor, things would never had been blown so out of proportion that nearly escalated into a fight.
If these angels felt that a particular table needs a little more attention, this is precisely how they would've approached me.
"Hey buddy, if you have time, could you please do me a quick favor and double check if this table is properly sized? Thanks." I would've been on that table immediately without hesitation. Problem solved.
Ultimately, there's just a classy way of conducting employees and it just makes me ill to think an incident of this nature could actually occur ON Christmas Eve of all time and places.
As I later shared this story with other employees later that evening, not to my surprise, they all told me to avoid him like the plague. Victor is actually very infamous among the staff and known for his notorious people skills.
So for any consumer who is brave and courageous enough to venture in Victoria's Secret at the Houston Galleria, make sure you avoid this guy at all cost. If you or friends have any questions or concerns about products, seek anyone else to assist you besides Victor.
I'm actually quite intimidated to return as a consumer myself. Hope my story helps. Please be careful!
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GerH74
December 2, 2009
Bad experience
Those work for victoria's secret online shop are so arrogant and likes to confusing people as every single time i called they with queries they have a different answer to that. and they totally do not care about the customers and enjoys to make us run around, well that is at least my experience with them.
i placed an order with them and there were some misunderstandings abt the billing address, they straight away decided to cancel the order, though everytime i contacted they i got a different answer, one minute they said the order is cancelled the next i have to do this and that to speed up processing my order and then after i make several international calls they decided i hv to contact my credit card company to get the payment approved, and when i called my credit card company they said there is no problems at all, so i contacted VS again, and they told me my order can not be processed anyway and this is all my fault nothing to do with them
anyway, as a indivudual oversea customer i cant do anything against them
and am just shocked is this how americans do business or its just VS does not care about the customers as they are a big brand?
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meowmix
December 1, 2009
Maybe their bras need warranties.
Women flock to this place for the ultimate cleavage and "sales."
I have spent hundreds and hundreds of dollars here because of one good bra and one decent pair of underwear. I have tons of VS bras and each one has something go wrong. I wear the correct size, I handwash my bras and a $60 bra is an investment as far as I'm concerned.
Underwires have come out at the worst times and made me bleed after less than a dozen times wearing them (pink bra). I just bought the T-shirt bra and after 3 SHORT uses the strap in front ripped. The VS push-up is totally useless to me after 15 wears. The fabric where the straps and clasps are sewn in ripped off completely. The Very Sexy straps come undone constantly and the underwires came out as well. The BioFit has been the only decent bra, but for $50 it should also be perfect. The straps never stay put. So I am out in public and they fall off of my shoulders and I constantly have to fix them. However, the material doesn't snag as much as others and they're cute and comfortable. The way it wraps around in back doesn't make me look like the Michelin man.
I bought a bra that had matching panties and found out the undies were over $17! But they were detailed with flowers sewn on the bra and panties, so I got them because I had a gift card anyway. Immediately after I wore them the thread started coming out and there went the flowers. Now it was just an ugly bra.
The embellishments attached on the bras usually come off within a matter of days from purchase.
Not to mention, everytime I check out I have an issue with the sales people. They ring another more expensive bra for the commission or tell me to get the wrong panties that are on sale. My friend and I split the cost once because they had a BOGO sale and the cashier kept reading the totals wrong (ie. one hundred seventy-five when it was $100.75 - "dollars" and "cents" would've helped a LOT) and it wasn't on any screen. So we politely asked her to check again and she proceeded to treat us like idiots - taking out her calculator and raising her voice.
In my opinion, each bra should come with an OPTIONAL WARRANTY for an additional couple of dollars - amount to be determined by actual price of bra, and then adjusted by the number of complaints on that product! Maybe 10-15% of the price of the bra. I would be willing to pay that, and many of my friends agree!
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October 30, 2009
incorrectly sized for bras
about a year or two ago, i bought a whole slew of bras from victoria's secret. i walked in, the sales woman greeted me, i told her i needed some new bras, as my old ones were worn out and no longer fit properly. she fitted me right on the merchandise floor, in front of everyone, no sense of privacy whatsoever or any empathy or thought that this may go against my own personal sense of boundaries. i was already uncomfortable about a strange woman measuring me in an intimate area, as it was, and now i was really feeling red-faced. so, that finally done with, she told me my size was a 36 C. when i tried the bras on, they seemed to me to fit. they seemed skimpy, but to me, they looked that way on the models in the commercials and in the catalogs, as well. several days ago, i went shopping at macy's to get a clear strapped bra to wear with my halloween costume. i didn't return to victoria's secret for this need, because of the emparrassment i suffered during my last experience in their store, for one thing, plus, i didn't feel like spending fifty bucks on a bra i would only likely wear with this costume and possibly not get much use out of, outside of that. i bought the same 36 C i had been wearing for the past year or so, and was off to a halloween party. within an hour, i had a janet jacksonesque wardrobe malfunction, and the fabric holding the convertible strap in place had ripped. there was no way to even temporarily fix the problem at the party, so i had another famale party goer tuck the strap into the back of the costume. great, more embarrassment! that's the second time victoria's secret caused me embarrassement, now. a day or two later, i took the bra back to macy's for a refund or exchange. the woman told me i needed to wash the bra before taking it back, so i did that and brought it back again. the woman that helped me was wonderful. she looked at me and looked at the bra and helped me pick out the size she thought i needed. i hadn't looked at the size at this point, but noticed that the bra did fit very well. much better than my bras at home, and better than that of the one that broke. i began to get curious and looked at the size on the tag; i was beyond shocked. i was just beside myself. it was a DD! and the saleswoman said i could almost go to a DDD, depending on whether the brand i tried ran a little smaller.
wow, i had come to think of myself as a C for so long, that my perception is completely thrown off. when i look in the mirror, i still see that C cup i had been for so long, and when you're told by a so-called professional that you're a certain size, that's what you believe. i have spoken with several other women who have had the same problem with victoria's secret saleswomen measuring them incorrectly. the point of a bra is to get support for the breasts, so you don't wind up with a national geographic situation, and that is not what i was getting out of these ill-fitting garments. i'm way too young to end up like that yet. it's no wonder the stupid bra broke, that victoria's secret employee really screwed me over. i mean, it's like putting anna nicole smith in an A cup. that sales woman could scarcely have been more wrong. and now, lately, i've been having shooting breast pain, no doubt, due to the extreme difference in the size i wore, and the size i actually was. i am all about comfort, i don't squeeze my feet into ill-fitting shoes, for the sake of fashion. my health and comfort are more important to me than impressing a bunch of people i don't know anyway. so why would i have knowingly put myself in so much discomfort in regards to my lingerie? i considered that i have gained weight since i estimated the last time i really was a C, but i've recently lost weight, and apparently, that weight absolutely did not come from my chest area. and i seriously doubt my breasts have grown that much in adulthood. now i'm wondering how many other salespeople have misled me regarding my bra size. now, i do have the frame to support a larger breast, so back problems aren't an issue, and i'm pretty intelligent, so that would have been another clue to me that i was in the wrong size.
i've heard other women speak of their sizes and would just quietly think to myself that they must be sized wrong! meanwhile, it was i who was wrong all along! or rather, the victoria's secret employee who no doubt measured me that way, so i would buy their bras, as their bras only run up to size DD. more than likely, their bras run a little small and i probably would have been a DDD in that store, which would have obviously meant i would have had to shop elsewhere to get my proper size. so now i have to go out and buy a whole new set of bras, instead of just one or two at a time to replace worn out undergarments. this whole ordeal will end up cost me a fortune, much to the satisfaction of any lingerie store, which will not be victoria's secret. i will never shop there again. sorry, vicky, you're running out of secrets and you just lost another customer for life. and nevermind the embarrassment i've suffered because i'm a woman who i doesn't even seem to know her own bra size. no thanks to some greedy little money grubbing cow working at vicotria's secret. very selfish, unprofessional and inappropriate. i remember when you could still find an honest salesperson. i remember when corporations still stood by a code of ethics and morality, and now that type of business is a minority. corporations are now the scourge of society, like AIDS or cancer. it is a sickness in this country and i believe a major cause of rising health care costs. over time, stress will make you sick everytime and the level of corruption in corporate america stresses everyone in one way or another. shame on you, victoria's secret. this is not your only sin, either, i've read several articles about scandal regarding formaldehyde used in the fabric, polyester and rayon being sold as silk and cotton. and i also noticed that it's absolutely impossible to complain to victoria's secret directly with my complaints. if a company isn't open to criticism, they are telling me they already know they have something to feel guilty for and aren't willing to listen and therefore, cannot improve their business practices and cannot therefore be truly successful. i will not trust a company if i even catch a hint that they are scandalous and will not do business with a company i can't respect or trust. i can only hope that many other customers will make the same stand against being treated as subhuman by companies who sacrifice their dignity and pride on the altar of the almighty dollar. this is the only way any true change will come in this country. ladies, looking sexy is not as important as the clear conscience that comes with knowing that you're supporting a company with a sense of your humanity in mind.
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