Wilshire Credit Corporation
Wilshire Credit Corporation Reviews
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August 19, 2008
Wilshire still ruining my life
My original mortgage / home loan was financed through Mortgage It Company in August of 2005 and shortly after, in October of 2005 was bought off by Wilshire Mortgage Credit Corporation.
I made numerous of calls to them trying to establish an Escrow account for my taxes to be incorporated into my mortgage payments. I work during a day, went to school on evenings and weekends and trying to get them on the phone was almost impossible - spending my breaks and launch hour(s) on the phone trying to get “alive” person. This tactic is used so they can wear you out. They know that most people don't have the time to stay on the phone during working hours. They conduct business only during regular business hours, when most people are at work and can't bother them. After repeated phones calls thru the most frustrating system I have ever used, the representative requested that I mail/fax them requested paperwork in order to set up that escrow account. I faxed it and I had a conformation that fax went through and was received. Couple weeks later, I called to inquire how long will it take for them to process it, and I was informed that they don’t have my paperwork and I was told that they are humans too, and the paperwork do get lost sometimes - and - they asked me to submit it again. I decided to go ahead and try again. This time I fax the paperwork and with a copy of conformation page I decided to mail those copies of the same paperwork with certified delivery confirmation. Again, I waited couple of weeks and called them to inquire how long it is going to take to process it - as the tax collectors already started calling me and started sending me vicious letters. After so many attempts to get someone on the phone again I was told - again - that they do not have my paperwork (???). They asked me to submit again (?) I decided not to.
The mortgage with them had two loans - 1st mortgage with adjustable rate going from some 6-7% to 10-11% in such a short period of time and 2nd mortgage with fixed rate of 10.99%. I had no late payments, no missed payments even dough that payments were killing me and there was not enough money left for my property taxes that were falling behind and barely any money left for life necessities. Having a comfortable income from my full time employment, and regular child support payments, and a part time job – wasn’t enough - leaving no time for anything else. Not only those payments were killing me, but they were now exterminating my household – my life!
In November of 2007 I called Wilshire and asked them to refinance me into a fixed mortgage rate home loan with escrow account set up. They told me to they do not refinance existing loans with them and asked me to file for forbearance with them due to hardship. I refused. I felt like they want me to loose my house. I felt they want me to fall behind the payments and owe them more money. I felt they are promoting foreclosures rather than helping their customers seek any option available in order to keep the roof over their heads. My son’s 13th birthday was approaching in mid November and I was devastated!! I couldn’t afford any gifts for him and I couldn’t possibly explain to him that all my hard work and major lack of time and neglect of him was for nothing - we were going to loose our home! I was on the edge of a nervous break down. I couldn’t sleep, I couldn’t eat, and I couldn’t concentrate or think straight.
I understand now that their investors are so greedy that they would rather see their investments vacant and not selling / refinancing than working with their customers. These games that Wilshire plays with people are simply sickening and should be - if not - illegal!!
So, I did my best and made my payments until December of 2007, while working with local mortgage brokers to help me refinance through other financial institution. I called Wilshire day before Christmas and remind them that I am looking into refinancing my home and the last payments from me will conclude for that current month - December of 2007. I also told them that as of January of 2008 they should be paid off in full (my prognosis for refinancing was looking very good) but if something goes wrong and I do not get refinanced – no payments will be send for January. I already planed to move out by end of January of 2008 and told them they can go ahead do what they need to do after that.
Miracle happened on January the 3rd of 2008. I was refinanced through Countrywide Homeloans FHA program and they paid off Wilshire on January the 8th of 2008!!
One of the best things ever happened to me! I was so happy! One mortgage payment, escrow account set up with taxes and insurance all included – and - almost $279/month less than both mortgages with Wilshire.
I was also very happy that I no longer have to deal with Wilshire unprofessional, misleading, lying, frustrating, rude, brainless, lazy, untrained, ignorant and careless employees.
I closed that chapter in my life – or so I thought - until yesterday! - !
Recently, I was offered by Countrywide Homelaons program Cash-out option for home improvement; new windows, doors, remodel bathrooms, etc. This approval is under the process and in addition to submitting all requested paperwork, I paid $349 processing fee for it.
I had a phone call yesterday evening from one of their underwriters, Mr. Jeff who informed me that Wilshire reported 30 days late payment for December of 2007. I was shocked!! I explained that I am totally unaware of that; this information is news to me as I made sure that all the payments were updated before I went into refinancing with Countrywide. I also told Mr. Jeff that I refinanced my car in March of 2008 through my employee Federal Credit Union and that wasn’t showing on my credit report as I am sure that would present a problem, an obstacle and I would be informed about it by loan officer from Credit Union. Mr. Jeff advised me to call Wilshire and to try to straighten this out. I told him that will be impossible, but I will try.
I started my ‘home-work’ this morning at 7:30 am. I was trying to get in touch with Wilshire once again. I also used Internet; research their web site and some additional web sites indicating anything in connection with Wilshire just to find out about the www.ripoffreport.com and http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/wilshire-credit-c76781.html - what a site(s)!!! Finally, at 9:50 am I was able to get a representative on the phone, who once again proof to me how unprofessional, misleading, lying, frustrating, rude, brainless, lazy, untrained, ignorant and careless Wilshire employees are. After ‘updating’ my account information with them (???), which no longer exist anyway, I explained to representative that reason for my call was to inquire about inaccurate information on my credit report provided by Wilshire and that I would like to dispute their ‘30 days late’ reporting currently showing on my credit report. He informed me that ‘their notes’ (entered by their employee) show that I called them and informed them on December the 24th that I will not be making a payments for December??? Knowing who I am dealing with - I calmly tried to explain to him that information makes no sense and that must be a mistake - that December of 2007 payments were made, and when I called them day before Christmas I informed them that I will not be making any payments for January of 2008 as my refinancing was coming through and they will be receiving a full pay off amount. I also recalled that I told their representative that if, for any reason refinancing doesn’t come through, I will be moving out by end of January of 2008 and they can go ahead and do what they need to do. The representative continued talking over me, called me immature (?) and that bottom line is - what their notes are saying is immaterial and irrelevant - still insisting that I was late with December of 2007 payment. I still tried to explain to him that payment was made, the check was mailed to them timely and they should check their records for the check date or simply by verifying it by the post date mark on the envelope of the payment. He told me they do not do that. I was stunned! I told him about my prior experience with Wilshire; loosing my (confirmed) faxes and (certified) mailings in the past and that I wouldn’t be surprised if they misplaced or sit on the check for days. I stated that it is not my fault if Wilshire was holding the payment once received or they must simply have an inefficient process for cashing checks. I also reminded him that refinancing came through January the 3rd and that Countrywide paid them off on January the 8th. In addition, I reminded him that received prorated / partial reimbursements from Wilshire for the payments that were made in meantime. I asked him how I can possibly be reimbursed the money if they were not overpaid or better yet, prepaid. He told me that means absolutely nothing, my payment was late and he will not change the information in their system. We went back and forth, back and forth. It was obvious to me that I was running into walls again with Wilshire. On the end, I had to terminate this phone conversation with the promise that I will sue. Deep down, I know that makes no difference to them.
Wilshire is not willing to work with people despite their massive errors and resulting situations. They are defrauding homeowners, running their credit, their hopes, dreams, livelihood, etc. They put thousands of families with children and senior citizens out on the streets without loosing any sleep over it. How does this company get away with doing business the way they do; with lies and wrongdoing and with so many complaints? I wish I can afford a lawyer!! I would take them al the way to the Supreme Court!
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July 18, 2008
Inappropriate Late Fee Charges
Wilshire frequently charges late fees for mortgage payments, though the delivery date of the payment is well before the 'grace period' due date. For the last 3 mos. I have been charged $16 late fee per month for sending payment late. However, this can be disputed by the fact that I send my payment through my online bank (BOA) who guarantees delivery date selected when making the payment. In one example, my bank cut the check on 5/2 and verified delivery on 5/7. Wilshire didn't cash the check until 5/13 - 2 days after the FINAL due date of 5/11.
When I contacted Wilshire they claimed the US Post Office must have taken over 6 days to deliver (from AZ to CA - right) the check. I asked them if they could verify by the post date mark on the envelope of the payment. I was told they do not consider the post mark a valid date - clearly there is a diabolic scheme here. If they are blaming the US Post for taking too long, then why not use the post date as a reference, I mean it is a federal document (the US date stamp anyway).
Meanwhile, I have been advised by Wilshire that it can take 5 to 10 business days for the US Post to send my payment from AZ to CA. This is ridiculous and clearly a loop hole for Wilshire to drain it's consumers in late fees. When I discussed this with my online banking co., they advised Wilshire must be holding the payment once received or they have a inefficient process for cashing checks (clearly it's not the latter, who doesn't want to cash $).
Over the years, I have noticed this seems to happen periodically each year and several months in a row. I'm not sure if they are trying to find ways to tap for add'l money or use it as a tactic to elicit payment before the grace period begins but it's shady and a bad way to do business.
In the end, I will pay the late fees and will have to await the months when Wilshire decides to hold payment and charge me extra. Please note, I have verified thru my banking co, payments have been delivered on the 7th of each month numerous times and somehow Wilshire cashed the checks on the 8th (wow the US Post works sometimes!!!).
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July 18, 2008
First time home buyer
I am so unhappy and very pissed I tried to purchase a property which they owned and I did everything I was supposed to do all inspections paid for my appraisal and I lost all that money because I had to cancel the transaction I waited more than 3 moths for them to finally sign that they would fix some problems with the location and then they signed but would not fix the problems and then they sat on it again I am low income and cannot afford these losses they are a scam plan and simply. I feel defrauded.
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June 19, 2008
They screwed my grandma out of her home
First, Wilshire Credit Corp refinanced my 82-year-old grandmother's home for a price she clearly could not afford on her fixed social security income. Then they started to foreclose her property because she couldn't afford it.
They let us (the family) work with them to resolve this, but right when we collected the big chunk of money they asked for to stop the foreclosure (well before the deadline by the way), the loan officer stopped contacting us and wouldn't reply to our calls, faxes or e-mails. Everybody at the company would direct us to the loan guy.
After a couple of weeks of this, Grandma received a foreclosure letter and eviction notice with a lawyer's name on it. We contact Mr Lawyer. Turns out the loan officer didn't work there anymore, dropped the ball and screwed my grandmother out of her home. Neither the loan officer nor any other rep at Wilshire bothered to tell us that the loan officer was leaving. Furthermore, Wilshire was not willing to work with us anymore despite their Massive error and resulting situation.
They wont' take our calls anymore - giving us the run-around. They didn't care that they messed up and are proceeding with the eviction. That is beyond wrong. Too bad we can't afford a lawyer.
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June 9, 2008
Scammers
Everyone reading these reviews against Wilshire Credit Please also go to www.ripoffreport.com and also see many, many other people who have had it with this company. You can also see good additional information and see this company for what they really are.
Between this excellent site and the other mentioned above maybe we can get something done. This company is defrauding homeowners and it has to stop!!!
United we stand and there are enough of us that we should be able to do something. Someone please do a web posting for signatures to help all of us.
Wilshire employees - You know what is going on. You cannot work there and not what this company is doing. You can stay there and continue to be a partner in crime or else help all of us.
When you unknowingly do wrong your are innocent.
When you knowingly do wrong and keep on doing it you are as guilty as who you are doing it for!!
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June 6, 2008
TRYING TO PUT ME IN FORECLOSURE
I BOUGHT MY HOME IN FEB.2006 WITHIN 4 MONTHS OF OWNING THE HOME MY MORG WAS BOUGHT OUT BY WILSHIRE CREDIT CORP. IN JUNE OF 2006 I WAS DIAGONOSED WITH CANCER.I CALLED WILSHIRE TO MAKE PAYMENT ARRANGEMENTS I WAS TOLD I WAS NOT BEHIND AS OF YET SO THERE WAS NOTHING THEY COULD AT THAT TIME.I CONTACTED THEM AGAIN IN JULY 2006 WITH MY PAYMENTS NOW 2 MONTHS BEHIND AND OFFERD THEM $1000.00 BIWEEKLY UNTIL I WAS CAUGHT UP I WAS TOLD NO .THEY NEEDED THE PAYMENT IN FULL.DEC 2006 I HAD MAJOR SURGERY WITH COMPLICATIONS AND DID NOT RETURN TO WORK UNTIL FEB 2007.I AGAIN CONTACTED THEM AND ASKED TO MAKE THE SAME PAYMENT ARRANGEMENT AND TOLD NO.SO IN JULY 2007 I CONTACTED FRESH START MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE AND THEY TRIED FOR 6 MONTHS TO NEGOTIATE WITHWILSHIRE ON MY BEHALF .BUT WILSHIRE KEPT LOSING FAXES, NOT RETURNING CALLS.BY THEN I WAS $18, 000.OO IN THE HOLE WHEN I STARTED ORIGINALLY FOR HELP I WAS $4, 000.00.SO THEN I A CASH BUYER TO DO A SHORT SALE EVERYTHING ON MY PART THROUGH ME, MY REALTOR AND MY INVESTOR WAS DONE AND COMPLETED IN 2 WEEKS.EVERY TIME MY REALATOR OR I WOULD CALL THE LOAN OFFICER SHE NEVER RETURNED PHONE CALLS.4 MONTHS LATER I GET A LETTER IN THE MAIL STAING SHORT SALE DENIED WITHOUT EXPLANTATION.I JUST WENT TO COURT MAY 27 2008 AND THE JUDGE IS GIVING ME UNTIL JULY 15 2008 TO WORK SOMETHING OUT WITH WILSHIRE. I AM AFRAID I WILL LOSE MY HOME.BECAUSE WILSHIRE HAS SHOWN NO INTREST IN HELPING OVER THE LAST YEAR WHY WOULD THEY START NOW.PLEASE HELP! THIS COMPANY AND THE PEOPLE ARE ONLY IN IT FOR THEMSELVES.THE PHONE # SHOULD NOT BE CALLED CUSTOMER SERVICE IT SHOULD CALLED WILSHIRE WE F--- YOU SERVICE.I'VE HAD SO MANY OTHER PROBLEMS WITH THIS COMPANY ALSO WITH MY PROPERTY TAXES AND MY HOME OWNERS INSURANCE NOT BEING PAID AND LOSING THE THE PAPER WORK AND FAXES.PLEASE HELP AGAIN.ALL CONSUMERS WITH WILSHIRE NEED HELP FROM THIS COMPANY AND ANY OTHERS LIKE IT. LETS FIRST START WITH THE MAIN ONE " WILSHIRE CREDIT CORP.!!!"
THANKS, LINDA & JOHNNY
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June 5, 2008
Beware
Anyone who has Wilshire as your mortgage servicer. BEWARE if they want you to sign a forbearance agreement as they are now starting to do to people. If you sign, they own you. Have your attorney read these papers. Papers are full of wording where you are still "screwed" and if you sign these papers they state that you withdraw any and all claims, lawsuits, either past, ongoing, or future Wilshire Credit, predecessors, successors, affiliates, officers, directors, employees, subsidiaries and parent companies and agree not to sue. This is done in order for your temporary modification to go through that will allow you top stay in your home for a few months only. This is only a short term modification. After a couple of months another agreement is to be worked out. These papers also will not allow you to protest any and/or all of the legal fees associated with Wilshire and these fees were initiated by Wilshire!! These papers are full of BS. This contains information that was stated was agreed upon by both parties BUT since I did not agree to this.
Please anyone who enters into an agreement with Wilshire do not sign these papers unless your attorney looks at these papers. You will end up losing your home regardless. Also, in my opinion the amount that will have been paid to Wilshire (for the few months and the down payment) comes to about what the 2008 taxes are on our home. I think they are now working for modifications due to the upcoming tax time so they will have enough money to pay taxes on your home without Merrill Lynch having to take from their own investors pockets.
I hope Merrill Lynch, and Wilshire Credit employees can sleep at night knowing how many people they have put out into the streets and how many homeless senior citizens there are now due to their
lies and wrongdoings. None of us homeowners wanted this nor did we ask for it nor did we sign for this. What happened what greedy companies like Merrill Lynch and Wilshire Credit and Capital Investments and Deutsche Bank saw a way to fill their pockets until their "cup runneth over" of which they have. They have taken people's dreams, hopes, livelihood (not only adults but also children) and have made it into "horror stories" just big corporation get rich quick schemes. Someday a good investigative journalist and will come along and expose these corporations/companies for what they really are and what they have really done and how rich these companies and corporations have gotten off the hard working average guy and the senior citizens. Just follow the paper trail and it leads you to people and places that I would have never thought or dreamed possible.
PLEASE DO NOT SIGN ANY PAPERS INITIATED BY WILSHIRE CREDIT OR THEIR ATTORNEY'S OR MERRILL LYNCH OR THEIR ATTORNEYS OR DEUTSCHE BANK OR THEIR ATTORNEYS.
Please take them to your attorney.
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May 23, 2008
Beware
http://wilshirecreditcorporationmerrilllynch.blogspot.com/
You will find a useful link on there that will point you in the right direction-the truthful one that explains on a short PowerPoint, without too much detail-so that they do not give their squeezing blood from a rock business operational model and trade secrets away (but you get the hint). You get a taste of who they are and what their priorities are. You, the mortgage owner, are not the client. The investors of these mortgage backed securities are. It is true that Wilshire can modify and short sale loans. They can and that information is a couple of clicks away from the public listed website above. Happy reading and I hope that you learn something useful for us all. Who will be the winners and losers of these loans-us, the taxpayers, FHA or the investment companies?
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May 3, 2008
Beware
I made the mistake of financing with Wilshire mortgage, and I REGRET IT! Whenever I contact them, it takes too long to get an answer. It’s as though they are trying to wear you out. Also they know that most people don't have the time to stay on the phone during working hours, so they stall and drag their feet to get an answer. They also only conduct business during regular business hours, when most people are at work and can't bother them. Then if you are able to prove that the mistake is theirs, it will come back again in a month or two. They have instilled their insurance every year, for the past few years, without checking with my insurance company. If you use their website to make payments, they still charge you a transaction fee. Even though every company on earth uses the internet and other electronic methods of communicating, they are stuck in the 1980's. FRIENDS DON'T LET FRIENDS USE WILSHIRE MORTGAGE.
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May 2, 2008
Bad service
I have the same problem with Wilshire credit mortgage I fell behind on my payments and for 6 months I called them told them what was going on no help went to had no help so they foreclosed on me in Jan hired lawyer in Jan still no help so Wilshire caused me to lose my home because all I wanted them to do iis lower my payments and they wouldn’t so now in July I might be homeless because I have no one to help me no one now I got a better paying job but now I’m trying to play catch up, and the lawyer that I gave 1775.00 to wont answer my calls her in much I’m doomed The best to any one who deals with Wilshire
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